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Tree ID needed.
« on: November 04, 2011, 01:53:49 pm »
There was a discussion at work today about the identity of a tree on one of our jobs. I think it might be a hawthorne, but I always knew it as a thornapple. Tall slender tree with branches growing almost parallel to the trunk.

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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 02:36:15 pm »
Thornapple and hawthorn are synonymous. Both refer to the Crataegus genus.
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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 02:59:04 pm »
Yes, the old timers around here always used the term thornapple, sometimes even thornplum, for hawthorn. ;D
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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 03:26:28 pm »
Never saw a Crataegus with limbs nearly parallel to the trunk and a tall slender tree.  Me thinks it is something else.

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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2011, 04:07:33 pm »
Sounds a lot like willow don't it? Jeff had a photo of one up his way (the UP) that was pussy willow to some of us.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 04:09:10 pm »
Or a lombardy poplar.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 04:11:42 pm »
This was Jeff's willow.




Could be poplar too, yup.

I had some big willow on a field plantation this year I couldn't cut with a brush saw and I can cut an 8-9" but.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 07:12:21 pm »
Ok, I'm finally back. I thought that hawthorn and thornapple might be the same. I've got a pic of the bark and of the leaves. The twigs end in a thorn, but not like the thorn apple that I remember as a kid. The thorn apple had smooth thorns about 2 to 3 inches long.



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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 07:32:28 pm »
Dave,
Where is this tree? I can take a look at it if you want.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 07:40:16 pm »
It's at the quarry on East road. Getting an ID isn't too important, we were just curious, you don't have to drive all the way out there. Although you are welcome to take a look. It's on the south side of the south driveway about fifty yards in. Thanks anyway.

It's been a longtime since I looked in a book, but I remember hawthorne having a lobed leaf, not smooth like these are.
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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 08:28:42 pm »
Next week I will be stopping on West Center Rd. to look at some Oak then going to the landing on N. Egremont Rd. to pick up firewood. I'm curious as to what it is so I'll stop by.
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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 08:39:39 pm »
It is definitley in the same family as hawthorne, the Rose family.  Looks like a fruit tree, maybe some type of pear tree.  There are a whack of different pear trees.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2011, 08:55:59 pm »
That's why I want to look at it. The bark looks similar to the Asian pear I have in my yard and I have never seen another one anywhere.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2011, 11:30:47 pm »
Yeah, not willow or hawthorn. The bark and leaves suggest apple, pear or plum.
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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2011, 01:21:35 am »
Fruit tree, kinda looks like pear.
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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2011, 07:58:23 am »
Keep in mind the twigs end in a thorn.
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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2011, 08:15:44 am »
Quote from: Dave Shepard on November 05, 2011, 07:58:23 am
Keep in mind the twigs end in a thorn.
Is this on all of them or just on the newer growth. On my Asian pear they are mostly on the newer growth.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2011, 10:39:12 am »
Thorn, or bud?
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Re: Tree ID needed.
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2011, 01:17:34 am »
I think its a hawthorn, but there's so many varieties.
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2011, 02:12:03 am »
Some wild plums and even apple trees are thorny, only the apples tend to have a bud on the short shoot where the plums and hawthorn are sharp pointed.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2011, 11:10:39 am »
Sure looks like a pear to me.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2011, 12:15:03 pm »
Not only that, but, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Dodgy
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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2011, 04:02:47 pm »
Hey, thanks for noticing TR!  8)

I had a great birthday and I was hoping for it to be even more special than usual - my wife and I are expecting our firstborn any day now - but the day came and went without the addition of a family member. It should happen within a week :)
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2011, 08:19:22 pm »
When the baby comes, you better post a pic or we will stick you with a thorn from Dave's pear tree  :D.
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