I agree Al, you save a lot more money by spending for more efficient appliances, building materials and the such, than you do buying alternative energy stuff. I have a 35k sq ft cabinet shop with a ~$22000 a year electric bill, with another $8000 yearly for NG heating(fire marshal is an idiot, wont allow wood boilers). I'm currently insulating the garage doors with cardboard as inch per inch it's almost as good as foam boards. Cheap, effective.