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Offline redlaker1

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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2011, 08:34:37 pm »
as brendonv said   you didnt ask   but   I will put in my last plug for the selector valve.     

having to take my hands off the controls to go from grapple to rotation would drive me nuts...   but then again I am used to running hoe and continuous motion.    its just so much more fluid and smooth to be able to quickly go back and forth with the grapple functions.

the cost wouldnt be much more if any,  and its really simple to plumb.   but if you dont load wood that often or do it for a living then I guess its not a big deal

looking forward to some more pictures of the progress on these projects.    I really enjoy seeing peoples projects

if I didnt have a mini excavator with a thumb and a dump trailer already I would probably be building one of these.    but I am getting by at the moment


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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2011, 08:01:11 am »
I'll stick with the lever to open and close the grapple it's not that big of a deal to me it would be better than what I have now witch is nothing! I will be starting to get what I need next week, I'm going to try and get all of the hydraulic parts that I will need first, Then I will get the axles, tires and wheels and then the steel. I'm also thinking about getting Alibre design so I can design it first and make sure all the bugs are worked out first. ;D
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2011, 10:52:02 am »
I see no problem with all levers, as long as they are properly setup.  No taking your hands off anything to operate the functions on mine. 
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #63 on: March 06, 2011, 12:52:36 pm »
There really is no problem with all levers. I'll set mine up with the levers and I'll be plenty happy with that setup. If it works good I might build a loader for my landscape trailer that way I can haul my own logs off my job sites myself. Or buy a used log trailer like a jms or something like that. 
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2011, 01:37:49 pm »
oh I was under the impression you were going with joysticks,       if its all levers then whats another couple levers.    you could go as big as you want and have a few extra circuits on there for future use,  independent stabilizers, etc


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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2011, 02:42:11 pm »
I'll be using a valve that has two four way levers, two levers for the stabilizers and one lever for the opening and closing of the grapple and it will run off the tractor hydraulic pump witch is 11 GPM.
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2011, 07:00:46 pm »
Is this trailer for off road or on road?
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2011, 07:07:08 pm »
It's going to be built for off road to tow behind my tractor.
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2011, 07:13:21 pm »
Don't put axles under it, build it with bogies. They will climb over rough ground and obstacles, straight axles will not.
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2011, 08:56:55 pm »
That's exactly what I'm going to do. :) Thanks for the tip any more?
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2011, 06:01:18 pm »
   Hardest thing about having a log loader is it takes about 2 weeks to get the smirk off your face the first time you run one.  Because of clearance issues I removed the draw bar and use the 3 pt hitch to hook to a swival hitch on the trailer. This makes it very easy to hook up and if the trailer were to flip it would not take the tractor. As redlaker1 pointed out  be sure the check valves are there and set right.  The first time I had the loader at the front and stood to operate it. Found I liked the seat and to the back.  Easier to see what I am doing and having an arm rest makes you faster.  The biggest thing for productivity  is the extend/boom.   Most do not have a cab so a shield over the levers will save you a lot of grief. If it is sloped front and back wires and limbs will ride over and not damage the levers. Given the choice I would have the stabilizer levers away from the rest.  With big gloves , frozen fingers and loose clothes you can hook one of the stabilizer levers by mistake if they are all the same height and in the middle. If you are unloading good sized logs it will give you quite a lurch. I adjusted them after that happened.   ;D

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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2011, 07:25:09 pm »
Sounds good Stephen Alford I'll keep the checks valve in mind.
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2011, 07:12:45 pm »
Can any one tell me the manufacturer of the joystick valve on the Metavic log loaders? I emailed them a few days ago and have not got a response yet.
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2011, 07:23:07 pm »
Logman,

 No offense, but they may not call you back, If you're reverse engineering ANYTHING it is difficult to expect a call back on a question. Least that is my experience (guess I rarely ever asked, but just seems that would be my experience :D)

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« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2011, 07:45:30 pm »
I didn't tell them I was building anything I told them that I needed a replacement one.
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #75 on: March 09, 2011, 08:17:11 pm »
Here is a picture of the valve on my Metavic. I can't remember what brand it is. I can look tomorrow and let you know.

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« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2011, 08:26:32 pm »
That wood be a huge help bill m. If you could tell me the brand and possibly the model number that would be great. Seems to me that it is a good setup and easy to use. Just curious how much hydraulic flow is needed to run the loader? My tractor has 11 gpm so I think that should be enough. ??? 
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2011, 08:28:35 pm »
Ahhh, well in that case Bill, make sure you dont just PM him, let us all know. That is a nice setup. ;D ;D

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« Reply #78 on: March 09, 2011, 09:04:57 pm »
My tractor has about 12 gpm. I run it at about 1200 to 1300 rpm. anything faster and the loader is to hard to control.
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Re: building a log forwarding trailer
« Reply #79 on: March 09, 2011, 09:34:25 pm »
log man81 what i mean by  taking the sweat out is when you start to heat up your steel with a LP torch or tigger torch you will see it get wet  and start to sweat then clear off. i would say in the 150-300 F if you can try a test pice befor you go for it. i don't know how good of a welder or what you got for a mig i would not try to do a weld like that whitout a 220V mig and make shere you got a gas mig. the no gas flux core i would not trust them little ones.  just a ruff starting place i would say in the 22-26Volts and 350+ wire speed.