Author Topic: John Deere 2010 Crawler (Read 4767 times)

g_man · « **on:** February 12, 2011, 08:15:31 am »

I am thinking about getting a crawler to work on my woods roads and keep them open in winter. I found an early vintage (S/N 10000) Deere 2010 Crawler with a blade and winch. The winch control needs rebuilding but the rest looks good to an unexperienced eye. Its an old machine from the 60's still running. Thanks in advance for your comments.

chevytaHOE5674 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2011, 08:28:21 am »

Have somebody that knows crawlers look the undercarriage and drivetrain over. You can easily spend multi-thousands of dollars repairing a worn out undercarriage.

Reddog · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2011, 08:38:57 am »

Transmissions and finals are a known weak spot on those. Last I knew parts where getting hard to find also.

pineywoods · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2011, 08:59:01 am »

g_man, I have a chinese knockoff of that dozer. I bought it for junk iron prices. weak points--hydraulic reverser, some models didn't have them, hydraulic pump, alternator, the tracks are a unique design, not easy to rebuild. throws a track at the drop of a hat. It's a simple robust machine, most of the problems I've had with mine are a result of poor quality control.

snowstorm · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2011, 09:29:22 am »

i worked for a jd dealer in the 70's saw plenty of those. the deisel was not that good gas was much better. track frames were weak dry steering clutchs would get water in the housing made for a rusty mess. unless you can work on it yourself. parts?? a wayyyy better choice would be a 350c ...3cyl. diesel wet steering clutchs

timbuck2 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2011, 09:49:25 am »

I had one in the 80"s, track frame got bent then it would only travel in circles

g_man · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2011, 09:59:41 am »

All good info, Thanks. he is asking $5K. Says the under carriage is re built. I am a decent backyard mechanic but have never worked on a tracked machine.
for what its worth here are some pics he sent

snowstorm · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2011, 10:12:46 am »

looks fairly good. track frames on a lot of them bent. looking from the front the ft idlers wouldnt be straight op an down. check rolls they are a real pain to change. check final drives for water metal . steering clutch housing for water rust. this diesel or gas??hydr. reverser?? i remember working on one that a boat yard had with a winch on it broke the crankshaft in two. the old guy i worked with told them the 2010 was junk and buy a 350 an they would have something

240b · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2011, 10:22:10 am »

get at least a 350c or 400g wet clutch tractor is the way to go. old crawlers are money pits. I know from experience. you'll want open center pads too.

treefarmer87 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2011, 11:12:35 am »

i have a 450 c, great machine, never had any problems with it. a little 350 with a winch would be great for a woodlot

Bobus2003 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2011, 12:42:54 pm »

I don't care how new or old the machine is.. You use one and they wear out.. Its a fact of owning/operating machinery.. And many times its expensive no matter what.. Just check out the "known" problem areas and any area that would see "normal" wear and tear. If theres a place that will see "Extreme" wear and tear check that out the best.

g_man · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2011, 12:43:49 pm »

It has the desiel engine. A set of spare sprockets. And a H-L-R power shifter like a 450.

240b · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2011, 01:40:01 pm »

if it has a hydraulic reverser get the transmission up to operating tem and see if it slips. it will seem to work fine with cold oil. 5k is a lot

Bandmill Bandit · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2011, 02:21:31 pm »

bout the only thing those 2010 were not bad at was pushin snow and I am not sure a shovel wasn't more reliable. slower yes but more reliable for sure

350 400 were a much better machines.

s grinder · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2011, 04:19:50 pm »

Like everybody's saying,a 450B or C are much better,I also worked for a JD dealer in the early 70's,had a 450B loader years ago when i was in the firewood business,with a fresh cutting edge and new teeth was good for grubbing brush,pushing small tree tops and limbs into piles for burning. All i give for a 2010 is what it's worth for #1 scrap.

Chet · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2011, 09:52:12 pm »

I know the old girl ain't no new fangled 450, but she don't know dat.

She's done alot of work for me and hopefully will be around for alot more.

treefarmer87 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2011, 10:33:54 pm »

nice dozer

jesse · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2011, 10:41:48 pm »

a little smaller 1010 diesel that i use to get logs out of the woods

treefarmer87 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2011, 11:04:29 pm »

thts a nice one 2

John Woodworth · « **Reply #19 on:** February 13, 2011, 12:18:20 am »

He might have had tip pins turned but that sprocket has not been rebuilt of replaced and does show wear, there is still hours left on it but should have had attention at pin time, how,s the wear on the front idlers and are you sure the bottom rollers are good.
You can stand some wear if the price is right and you run it with in mind it's not new and keep up with the maintaince, all it takes is one broken obsolete, unavaible major part and you've wasted your money.

Chet your 450 looks super fine, here's a man to tell you about maintaince and operation, the condition of his cat proves that.

shinnlinger · « **Reply #20 on:** February 13, 2011, 12:53:55 am »

It doubt this one is in better shape, but something to compare and it is in colebrook.... http://www.machinerytrader.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=7251757&dlr=1&pcid=2920787

g_man · « **Reply #21 on:** February 13, 2011, 06:36:36 am »

Thanks for all the helpful comments. I can't find much enthusiasm amoungst you guys for the jd 2010 so I will keep this one in mind and keep looking. I can tell the machine size, condition, and price trade offs are going to be difficult. Right now I am thinking pushing snow but I know I will want to be able to do more once I get one. I'll take a look at the 350 Nash has. I wonder if you can get around in his place in the winter?

Chet · « **Reply #22 on:** February 13, 2011, 08:30:35 am »

Quote from: John Woodworth on February 13, 2011, 12:18:20 am

Chet your 450 looks super fine, here's a man to tell you about maintaince and operation, the condition of his cat proves that.

John,
She's a 1963 2010

But don't tell her dat, da ole girl still thinks she's a 450.

g_man · « **Reply #23 on:** February 13, 2011, 09:10:42 am »

Quote from: Chet on February 13, 2011, 08:30:35 am

Quote from: John Woodworth on February 13, 2011, 12:18:20 am
Chet your 450 looks super fine, here's a man to tell you about maintaince and operation, the condition of his cat proves that.

John,
She's a 1963 2010 But don't tell her dat, da ole girl still thinks she's a 450.

She tricked us to. Nice machine.

shinnlinger · « **Reply #24 on:** February 13, 2011, 09:26:15 am »

Gman,

I have never dealt with Nash directly, but I bet some folks here have so I would ask and see if they are fair, will dicker on prices, etc. On their web site they have alot of stuff sitting in the snow, so they clearly do business right now. For the loggers this is a hot time so I can see why.

Dave

treefarmer87 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 13, 2011, 09:54:10 am »

they look a little over priced, but they do have a large selection.

Corley5 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 13, 2011, 10:17:48 am »

I agree on their high web site prices. Is the stuff as high in person

shinnlinger · « **Reply #27 on:** February 14, 2011, 12:52:58 pm »

According to this thread, they aren't great to deal with...
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,48999.0.html

ve3xox · « **Reply #28 on:** March 18, 2011, 10:27:43 pm »

Quote from: g_man on February 12, 2011, 08:15:31 am

I am thinking about getting a crawler to work on my woods roads and keep them open in winter. I found an early vintage (S/N 10000) Deere 2010 Crawler with a blade and winch. The winch control needs rebuilding but the rest looks good to an unexperienced eye. Its an old machine from the 60's still running. Thanks in advance for your comments.

I had my old girl for a couple years now. She just keeps on snorting. Worked the bush this winter and we had a great time.

beenthere · « **Reply #29 on:** March 18, 2011, 11:46:49 pm »

The Deere looks good perched up there. Good on the pics for a first time poster.

Welcome to the forum.

Any more pics of the Deere working the bush?

Chet · « **Reply #30 on:** March 19, 2011, 10:41:02 am »

Da grandson and I Gittin' Er Done last summer

beenthere · « **Reply #31 on:** March 19, 2011, 10:48:37 am »

Chet
Doesn't get any better than that.

Old Iron nut · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2011, 05:03:31 pm »

We sold one two years ago for half that. Was in good shape, good undercarriage, good motor (gas), ran well. However; those machines are not one that I would recommend for one that is not familiar with dozers. They have a lot of shortcomings as some of the other fellows have said. Part prices are nuts for these old things, but so are those for Caterpillars. If you decide to get one of them and need parts, get on the 'net and shop before you buy. Had a similar case last year where Cat was 4 times the price of what I could get aftermarket parts for. The aftermarket parts, (steering clutches-English made and steering clutch hubs-Italian) were better quality than Cat's. Also 1/4 the price! I would not pay 5 grand for your friend's machine! Cheers, Old Iron nut.

smwwoody · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2011, 07:13:40 pm »

I think you should be able to find a good 350 or 450 for that money

Woody

jtrichard · « **Reply #34 on:** October 07, 2011, 11:04:10 pm »

i have had my 2010 since 69 have had great luck with it pushed a lot of stuff with it put new chains on it in 73 had pins turned in 2000 now have 2 more all diesel and all have worked great putting a new (used set of rollers under one of them and a set of rebuilt tracks off of a 350 plus a few links) one loader 4in1 and mod 36 ripper two others both 622... 6 way hyd. dozers one has mod. 35 ripper..... Chet i see your was a diesel

beenthere · « **Reply #35 on:** October 08, 2011, 12:31:20 am »

jt
Welcome to the forum.

Chains? How about some pics. We like pics.

Are you logging with the 2010? Or landscaping?

jtrichard · « **Reply #36 on:** October 08, 2011, 12:37:13 am »

i have to get a camera i want to put up pics. im near palm springs calif not many trees here

.... just do grading and septic tanks havent had the loader long was surprised at how much rock she cuts..... track chains reused the pads

Ken 45lc · « **Reply #37 on:** October 09, 2011, 11:38:10 am »

Too bad you didn't live closer, because then i'd sell you mine very cheap for parts. On mine, the rails rusted out where the idler slides back and forth. Mine also has the 6 way blade. It's been sitting in the garage for the last 3 years because I haven't decided wether it's worth repairing or not. I should probably just scrap it and give the wife that spot in the garage to get her off my back.

As far as dealing with Nash---Good luck. I recently sent photos of my 240D to see if we could work out a trade towards a grapple. They offered me 12k, when i asked why they are asking 26k for ones in worse condition they just said that's because we're selling it. So they basically weren't giving me anything towards the other skidder. That will be my first and last dealings with Nash Equipment.

timbuck2 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 09, 2011, 01:18:38 pm »

I had one in the late 70's, same thing track frame bent and it would be headed back to the barn! I figured out if I kept that side plugged up with snow and ice it wwent ok. Sold it to a guy named Jimmy Carter, true story!

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Author Topic: John Deere 2010 Crawler (Read 4767 times)