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Offline nhlogga

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Re: -30 F for
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2011, 07:54:06 pm »
Another thing to watch for, in MN at least, is whether your fuel has any bio-diesel blended into it. I'm normally all for some bio, but not in the winter. It doesn't behave very well in the cold. In fact, the state had mandated that all on road diesel had to have 5% (I think) bio diesel blend, this fall they suspended part of that so that #1 sold in the winter doesn't have to run any. I believe that was mostly due to loggers throwing a fit, they knew all their trucks would be gelled up. When the state first mandated the bio diesel several years back, I think about half the trucks in the state were parked on the shoulder gelled up of the road on the first cold day of the winter ::) It was a bit of a mess.



Bio+Cold weather = Bad headaches. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
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Re: -30 F for
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2011, 11:50:22 pm »
At what temperature do you guys change from #2 to # 1 diesel?

I think that the general rule of thumb is that #2 fuel will gel at around -10F (or even a whole lot warmer if your fuel filter is adding resistance from ice or dirt).  Once you get colder that -10F, you need to blend some #1 into the #2.  In my area, the fuel distributor will usually recommend a 70/30 mix of #2/#1 in the winter which I think is targeted at the -30F range?  Fuel additives like Powerservice say right on the bottle that they can be used in straight #2 fuel to achieve the same properties, but I'm not convinced.

One of my tractors has a fuel filter with the element completely visible through the glass.  This is a nice feature to have when you're trying to diagnose your filter and fuel condition in cold temps.  You can see it struggling when it's pulling air bubbles through the injection pump side of the filter element.  One time at around -20F that tractor started to gel up.  I saw this happening and couldn't figure out why because the fuel should have been fine and the filter was pretty new and looked clean.  I popped on a new filter and all was good (except my fingers).   I would have just blamed the fuel if it had a canister filter.

Anyway, around here it doesn't get cold enough that we have to burn straight #1 fuel.  There's nothing wrong with doing this except it hurts your wallet and limits your power.  #1 fuel has a lot less energy per volume so you burn a lot more of it than #2 or a #2/#1 blend.  Plus you have less power from your engine.  But hey, you still have a lot more power than an engine that won't run past idle! :)  Loading your blend up with #1 can be good insurance (especially this year).

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Re: -30 F for
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2011, 12:13:48 pm »
I recommend anyone who have bulk fuel on hand save it for the warmer months and buy your fuel fresh where the fleet trucking companies buy their fuel.
I get my fuel from a Petro Canada cardlock station were all the truckers fuel up and I'm always guarenteed its the right fuel for the season. I remember 30 yrs ago problems we had with the transition of summer fuel to winter fuel up here in northern Canada when logging but I can't remember any problems since.

Willard.

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Re: -30 F for
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2011, 06:52:07 am »
Fuel additives like Powerservice say right on the bottle that they can be used in straight #2 fuel to achieve the same properties, but I'm not convinced.

tjdub,  Up here where I live and work everybody uses Powerservice in addition to our fuel being treated by the distributor for -30*F. I learned the hard way a number of years back, use it religiously or you will gel up if you get a bad batch of fuel.
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