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Author Topic: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?  (Read 11567 times)

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Offline jbos333

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Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« on: November 28, 2010, 02:56:53 pm »
Hi. I was just trying to put together some figures for a pole barn/cabin I'm looking to build in 2011. I figured I'd ask here for a ballpark number on rough sawn hemlock for board/batt siding. I realize it can vary greatly by region but I'm building in Cattaraugus county, New York. Quite a few Amish mills around there, but it's Sunday so I can't ask any of them. And it's usually too late when I get home from work to take a ride out there.

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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 04:07:41 pm »
i sell it for 0.45 bd ft
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 05:41:36 pm »
Boards like 1" .45 to .65 .2" .65 to .80 . 4x4 .6x6 8x8  and the like .80 to 1.50 a bf. over 20' 2.00 to 3.50 a bf +  8) 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 06:44:58 pm »
The floors and roof in this old place are hemlock. I know that doesn't help on pricing. But, some of you boys sure get a good price for hemlock. Do well to get 25 or 30 cents a foot here.

Now, western hemlock, that's an entirely different beast as far as price.

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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 07:48:09 pm »
Just today I unloaded 50 - 2x4s and 50 - 1x4 boards all 8-foot for .50 a bdft.
I don`t have any issues selling it at .50 a board foot.
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 07:50:50 pm »
Nor do I. Get all the market will stand, I say. ;)

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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2010, 08:32:34 pm »
In WV I sell hemlock for .50/bdft. It's beginning to be more of a problem getting hemlock due to a slow market and only certain mills willing to saw it. I try not to cut mine so I'll have enough for my own use. Last logs delivered by the customer were poor condition (some may recall my post addressing dissatisfied customer), but as of late no problems.
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2010, 09:24:40 pm »
Thanks all for the swift replies! I will throw a figure of .50/ft on it for figuring purposes, then. That should be close enough for now.

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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2010, 11:23:26 pm »
Your east coast prices are not very similar to the west.  Are you box store prices as low or lower?

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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 06:49:20 am »
Box store prices are lower.  But, I saw my dimension lumber to true size, so there is more wood in the product.  I think a lot depends on the project. 
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 05:09:10 pm »
40 cents one inch 8 foot to 85 cents 2 inch 16 foot
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 09:34:19 pm »
Our box store prices are much higher than that.  I would guess about $.40 for unspecified species.  

I know the lumber yards offer Douglas Fir at about $.70/bf, they also have hem/fir for a little less.

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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2010, 04:07:54 am »
Western hemlock is a finer wood to work with than eastern hemlock. You can't get much more than $70 a cord for logs roadside around here. 95% of it is left to stand or rot in the woods. They are most often sap sucker peck wood. Need a bounty on the darn things. I had 6 hammering away at a yard red pine last spring. They come back to it each spring.

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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2010, 09:10:54 pm »
40 cents one inch 8 foot to 85 cents 2 inch 16 foot

Why is 2 inch material over 100% more per bd. ft than 1 inch??
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2010, 09:17:36 pm »
Its probably the 16ft that is more than the 8ft. not the 4/4/ versus 8/4.  Longer lengths are usually always more money. Longer logs are harder to come by, cost more to haul, and are harder to handle at the mill.
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2010, 09:36:34 pm »
Its probably the 16ft that is more than the 8ft. not the 4/4/ versus 8/4.  Longer lengths are usually always more money. Longer logs are harder to come by, cost more to haul, and are harder to handle at the mill.

 ??? If I charged over twice as much per bd ft for dimensional lumber regardless of 8 foot versus 16 , I wouldn't sell much pine or hemlock.  I actually saw more bd ft per hour with 16 foot logs and my loggers prefer to deliver 16s....?
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2010, 09:41:11 pm »
Forgot to add my $$ prices for my hemlock-

$.55 per bd foot regardless of 4/4, 6/4 or 8/4...  up to 7 inches wide

8 inches or wider  $.70

12 inches or wider $.80

now over 16 feet is a special item priced per job.....
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2010, 09:57:30 pm »
most of our local hemlock won't give much in the way of 16 foot logs, and the ones that do have a lot of taper

I usually have to buy them at around 25 to 35 cents

I sell most of my pine for 50 cents, with only a premium on wide clear
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2010, 12:26:45 pm »
Man I need to move east ;D Box stores sell dressed 2X6X12' fer 3.59 ea ::) ::) Around here we only use hemlock for door and window stiles beings hemlock don't take Western Oregon weather very well
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Re: Ballpark price for rough cut hemlock?
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2010, 12:33:34 pm »
The old time belief around here is that hemlock is very rot resistant. And it's no better than spruce, if as good. My uncle still insists it's true because of some buildings and houses were built from it. Never stopped to think it was a secondary product during the tannin era. The tree was cut, so might as well mill it and it tended to be big logs. In this house it was only in the floor and roof.

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