Poplar for building a sawmill shed

[paul case]

Paul: you nailed the oak together?  Didn't have to pre-drill to make that work?  And were those full inch lumber or typical dimension lumber sizes?  Thanks.

Lj

yup big old nails with ring shanks and we put m in with a hammer! i know, i know nobody does that anymore, but we did. i sawed all the lumber 1-5/8 thick  . drill the first board and nail into the second. same way we did it on my house.
when you got oak and a way to mill it you use what ya got.   pc

[beenthere]

More "popple" than poplar. Names get picked up for woods in different parts of the country. Can be confusing.

I'd agree with barbender that aspen is likely the wood in question. Not yellow poplar.

[Okrafarmer]

More "popple" than poplar. Names get picked up for woods in different parts of the country. Can be confusing.

I'd agree with barbender that aspen is likely the wood in question. Not yellow poplar.

He could be talking about Balsam Poplar, balm of Gilead, etc.

It's important when we talk about our pines, oaks, poplars, etc. on here that everybody should be careful to look at the region the poster hails from for a clue as to what type of tree they may be talking about. Tulip tree (aka yellow poplar or tulip poplar, or just poplar in many parts of the south) may grow in some parts of extreme southern Ontario, but the true poplars are going to be much more prevalent up there. In Maine the terms poplar and popple are somewhat interchangeable and usually refer to quaking aspen. Balsam poplars, Cottonwoods, and Big tooth aspen are also in the true poplar family, and then there is the Lombardy Poplar, introduced from Europe. My grandparents had one in their yard in Junction City, Oregon, and it grew to be over 100 feet tall and at least 6' dbh. Everything grows bigger out west. . . . .

[barbender]

Poor Balsam Poplar gets no respect around here. It has a greenish tint, the wood stinks when cut. Otherwise, I think it should be similar to aspen in its strength and working characteristics. BTW, around here it is called Balmy or Balm of Gilead, the aspen species are usually called Popple.

[Okrafarmer]

Poor Balsam Poplar gets no respect around here. It has a greenish tint, the wood stinks when cut. Otherwise, I think it should be similar to aspen in its strength and working characteristics. BTW, around here it is called Balmy or Balm of Gilead, the aspen species are usually called Popple.

Yes it seems to go by both names at least from where you live over to Maine. My cousin has a huge one at her house, unless they finally got it cut down.

[barbender]

The Balmy I have hauled in the winter went to the Sappi paper mill, they run right in with the Aspen products. This stuff had nice form, it loaded on the truck like saw logs, the aspen off of that site was horrible, you could barely fit enough on the truck to get close on weight limits. On another note, I was just looking at the MN Big Tree Registry, champion Bigtooth Aspen is 120' tall!

[Gary_C]

Oh these DanG'ed names again. It's all about what it not. Tulip Poplar is not aspen or popple. Balm is popple and is balsam poplar not balsam. Balsam fir is balsam and not popple or aspen.

There, is that clear?   

[barbender]

I had my kids out in the woods the other day, doing some tree identification for a homeschool project. I found myself explaining all the different names of the trees, and thinking it was rediculous.  "Here, girls, this is a Red Pine. I think it's called that because the bark is reddish, or maybe cause the wood is reddish. It's also called Norway Pine, but it didn't come from Norway. That over there is a Red Maple, also called Soft Maple. But it's not really soft, more hard and brittle." "Daddy, why is it called Red Maple then? We're confused."

[Gary_C]

And according to the pulp mills, Red Pine is Norway, Jack, and Scotch but not White Pine. 

[Okrafarmer]

I had my kids out in the woods the other day, doing some tree identification for a homeschool project. I found myself explaining all the different names of the trees, and thinking it was rediculous.  "Here, girls, this is a Red Pine. I think it's called that because the bark is reddish, or maybe cause the wood is reddish. It's also called Norway Pine, but it didn't come from Norway. That over there is a Red Maple, also called Soft Maple. But it's not really soft, more hard and brittle." "Daddy, why is it called Red Maple then? We're confused."

And of course red pine is in the yellow pine family, and black oak is in the red oak family.  It's kind of like aircraft carriers-- you know, carriers of the Yorktown Class, but only one is THE Yorktown.

[barbender]

Yes, we did the oaks too- Bur oak is a white oak, northern pin is a red oak, No, it's not Red Oak but it is a Red Oak

[paul case]

sounds like you guys need to give a tractor lesson you know,
its green but its not a john deere, its red but its not a international, its blue but its not a ford, its orange but its not a allis.   :Dpc

[Okrafarmer]

I was home-schooled too, BB!

[Okrafarmer]

sounds like you guys need to give a tractor lesson you know,
its green but its not a john deere, its red but its not a international, its blue but its not a ford, its orange but its not a allis.   :Dpc

My boss has a Massey Harris Ferguson 50 that somebody hog-slop-painted royal blue.