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Author Topic: Bad Compression Tester or Bad Me?  (Read 1662 times)

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Offline Rocky_J

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Re: Bad Compression Tester or Bad Me?
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2010, 10:21:27 pm »
Nothing on a chainsaw has a tolerance level of 3 microns. They simply are not that precise.

Sorry that you think I'm being a jerk, I'm not trying to be. I'm only suggesting that you use your brain combined with your powers of observation to notice if the saw seems to run right or if something is amiss. It's not that complicated. Does it rev up properly and pull with good power or does it spit and sputter and fall on it's face when put on the log? If you need a micrometer to figure that out then I cannot help you. Step away from the chainsaw before you hurt yourself.  :-\

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Re: Bad Compression Tester or Bad Me?
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2010, 03:13:18 pm »
I don't think you're a jerk Rocky.  Opinionated, yes, but that's fine with me.  I appreciate you telling me honestly what you think.  I pride myself in being able to use my eyes and ears to assess whether or not a machine is running correctly, but I've found that instruments, gages, etc. are a great way to verify when things are OK or something is wrong.  With this particular saw it's been through 3 pistons with the first jug, and now I've just replaced both the P/C so I'm checking everything I can to make sure these will have a long, happy life. 

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Re: Bad Compression Tester or Bad Me?
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2010, 04:48:40 pm »
3 pistons?  :o do you use it that much, or is there an underlaying problem? the only thing i could think of would be the mix, but that would cause more problems other than just the piston...weird

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Re: Bad Compression Tester or Bad Me?
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2010, 05:54:38 pm »
3 pistons  :o, carb set to  lean, seals bad, air leak somewhere IMO.  Just WAG's.
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Re: Bad Compression Tester or Bad Me?
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2010, 05:58:38 pm »
Well you either cooked them from running lean ,sucked in a bunch of crud and gobbled them up or snagged a ring and grenaded them . Some times a cylinder will live through a grenading, sometimes not .

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Re: Bad Compression Tester or Bad Me?
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2010, 09:20:42 pm »
Actually, I posted this before, but a recap of this saw:

I got it from a friend who works for the power company, after one of their crew blew it up.  They didn't think it was repairable at reasonable cost.  I thought the cylinder looked OK, so I cleaned it up and put in an aftermarket piston/ring.  I ran it rich for quite awhile and then set it like I set all my other saws.  It lasted three years and then died one day.  Looked through the exhaust port and, sure enough, another scored piston.  The cylinder still looked OK, so I put in another piston/ring, and replaced the impulse tube at the same time.  Putting it back together I stripped out one of the holes in the (cheap) plastic that the carb. attaches to.  I put some epoxy in it and threaded the screw into that hoping it would hold.  Guess not because that piston lasted one hour.  At that point I questioned everything, and even thought about just selling the saw for parts, but finally decided to make a project out of rebuilding it one more time.  When I took the saw apart the cylinder bolts were not very tight, so maybe I had an air leak there as well.  I bought a piston/cylinder from Bailey's, but before I put it in I did a pressure/vacuum test on the crankcase and it was OK.  The bearings in the bottom end all felt good.  I put the new cylinder and piston on, torquing the bolts several times and even used Locktite medium strength on the threads, and put a new top bearing in the crankshaft, although the old one looked OK.  I then changed the screws to bolts when I put the carb. back on, and installed another new impulse line.  The rubber boot between the carb. and cylinder looked good so I didn't replace it.  I cleaned out the muffler real well when I put that back on, but haven't opened it up because it's empty inside and pretty open already.  But that could be something to consider in an effort to get it run cooler. 

That's the saga.  Hope I got it right this time.  Haven't run it more than a few minutes yet and, trust me, it's set rich by sound and smoke.  If anyone has any comments, ideas, etc., I'd be pleased to hear them.  Thanks.

John

 


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