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« on: May 06, 2010, 01:39:50 pm »
Question to woodmizer owners.
 Since it they are cantilever design do they ever get out of align when they get older?
If I end up getting a used sawmill it will probably be a woodmizer and that is one thing that i'm kinda worried about.
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 02:04:29 pm »
Question to woodmizer owners.
 Since it they are cantilever design do they ever get out of align when they get older?
If I end up getting a used sawmill it will probably be a woodmizer and that is one thing that i'm kinda worried about.

Not to worry.  Old Wood-Mizers never die.  They just get new owners.  Wood-Mizer supports every mill and mill owner with service and parts.

I don’t think there is a mill that has been invented since the pit saw that never needs some alignment after some normal use.

We have nearly 5,000 hours on our 2002 model LT40 and alignments have only occurred after some replacement of some wear items such as blade guide rollers head cam rollers.

 


  
Just yesterday I replace the upper cam rollers that support the head traveling down the rail.  This is the second set in 8 years and about 5,000 hours. (The lower and side cam bearings are original equipment still in fine shape.)  After replacing the cam rollers,  I measured the blade to bed distance and made a correction of 1/8”.   I’ll audit the results of actual sawing and may have to twink an adjustment here and there.

If the mill you buy has been demonstrated to be well maintained and in good working order you should have no worries.  If in doubt about the condition and adjustment, then Wood-Mizer offers maintenance packages that will get your mill in good working order.
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 02:06:56 pm »
Let me preface the following with the fact that my reply is personal opinion and experience, not company ads. I have owned 3 WM mills. I have only about 1900 hrs on the one I am running now (LT40 Super Hyd with 51 Cat and Remote). If the maintenance schedule is followed with checks on 50 hr interval as recommended, I do not think you will have a problem. If the bearings the head has above and below the rail are checked and replaced as needed, I have not had any problem. I did not look at my my maint log, but I think I replaced one cam follower bearing at about 1500 hrs. I have never had to adjust the head more than 1/16" to stay within the recommended 1/32" tolerance from bed rails.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 02:20:49 pm »
That's good to know. I just wasn't to sure about the cantilever. Personally i like the four post design. It looks more sturdy.
But  I cant find any used ones near by for the right price. But there are more woodmizers closer to me for a better price. From pictures some look a little rough. As long as they are not bent up in way that cant be fixed I figure i would replace all the parts that would be needed.
Thanks bibbyman
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 02:40:59 pm »
WM's are notorious for looking rough. They would benefit from buying a paint that has some of the UV stabilizers that my company makes in it. It is in all car paints. I have a fairly new mill and keep it parked under a shed, but alas I know one day it will look  like a washed out rag.   :'(  But I know it will still cut like a champ.  ;D ;D 8) I bet even the oldest WM can be brought back to its new cutting ability with some parts and service.

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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 03:01:13 pm »
"WM's are notorious for looking rough. " haha

Hey i like this
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 06:06:12 pm »
I view the cantileaver head as an advantage. You can get a lot of weird stuff sawn up with one side being open.
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 06:26:03 pm »
What I like about the Woodmizer brand.......Well, I like everything about the Woodmizer brand. But, concerning, let's say the bed rails are out of alignment. You can adjust them back in alignment if you have to. In other words you have that option. Alot of the other mills bedrails are welded to the frame and if they are worn over the years, they are just worn and that is that. You need a torch, a grinder, or something to cut that portion off and weld another one on there. In my opinion, Woodmizer has it down to a science and most everything can be adjusted, one way or another, with some tools out of your tool box.

Again..... I'm just partial to WM sawmills.

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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 06:45:57 pm »
my first bandmill was a 4 post design, put 3500 hrs. on it was alot to keep it adjusted.
 second mill was 2005 wm lt40 super sold it with 3700 hrs. on it was easy to keep adjusted. tommorrow going to pickup new wm lt 40 super.
 most any mill can be brought back to good shape but, and its a big BUT, some have been rode extremly hard and would cost to much to be reliable, and in the end cost you more to maintain than you could ever get back in production.
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2010, 07:06:20 pm »

  Yes every once in a while you have to adjust them.  Mine has been drug over 300,000 miles and just has over 11,000 hrs on it and will saw just as good as the day I got it 9 years ago.  I am a thinking you can wear one out but have not gotten there yet.
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2010, 07:10:23 pm »
The alignment for the Wood-Mizer sawmills is actually rather simple and step-by-step.

The owner/operator's manual contains all of the alignment procedures.

Just start at the begining of the alignment section and go through the entire alignment process.  It doesn't take very long.

I've had my mill for two years now, and when I shut down for the winter, I park it in the back bay of my garage and through the course of the winter, I go through the whole alignment process.  Like I said, it doesn't take very long.

Once you get the alignment done, you'll have minimal alignment to do from that point on.
If you change parts, that can make a difference too.

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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2010, 07:48:14 pm »
Thanks for all the comments. I knew I would get all you woodmizer fans to comment :)
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2010, 07:53:02 pm »
 Seems like the track that the cam rollers roll on  would wear just as much as the rollers where it's used the most, is that replaceable.  No adjustments at all on my B20 in over 7000 hours except for guide rollers and band tracking...    Steve
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2010, 08:11:19 pm »
Seems like the track that the cam rollers roll on  would wear just as much as the rollers where it's used the most, is that replaceable.  No adjustments at all on my B20 in over 7000 hours except for guide rollers and band tracking...    Steve

I think on some of the older units the rod the roller rides on was maybe softer metal then what they’ve used for many years now.  If there has been any wear on the rods on our mill I can’t see it.   The rollers have a circumference of about 3” or a little more.  The track is something like 24’ long.  So each trip,  the little cam bearing goes around …. Errr…  a bunch of times.  So even if it wears at an equal rate, it would be something like 3”/24’ ratio.  I think…
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2010, 08:17:50 pm »
Here is an add a few hours from where i Live. Any other ideas on some questions i could ask him?

I am selling my woodmizer Bandsaw mill it is an older mill but runs fine it has a 16hp motor , Electric advance and return. Mill will cut a 16’ log and about a 32” wide log. I thought it would be very cool to have one but just don’t have time to mill right now in my life. $5000 OBO. I will send pic's later when I get home.

P.S. I think it;s a LT-30 or 35

Here are some responses to some question I asked him

works just fine. It's an early 80's mill I still haven't checked the hours I keep forgetting to . The motor was replaces a few years back and works great.

It has 38 hours on it. That's after the new motor was put on it. I don't know how many total hrs

Here are some photo's of it




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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2010, 08:58:25 pm »
   Kind of strange. I believed I just looked at the same photos in the gallery of a new member from the UK. Hmmmm.

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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2010, 10:06:45 pm »

    ellmoe;
                    That gallery link you punch in on the uk new member is not actually his
              gallery. It is bringing up a portion of galleries of random members. Some of
              my pictures were in it earlier today.   ::) ::)


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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2010, 10:11:50 pm »
And I just saw pictures in my gallery there ??
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Re: Wood-Mizer
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2010, 12:58:35 am »
Seems like the track that the cam rollers roll on  would wear just as much as the rollers where it's used the most, is that replaceable.

I've tried to cut my track with a chainsaw -- no luck, not a scratch. I've locked the carriage in place with a couple pair of vice-grips (a WM rep told me to) -- not a mark. On the newer machines that rail is hard.
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2010, 07:26:37 am »
 It's good that WM uses a hardened rail with all of the pressure on it. if it wore at all that would be hard at adjust out.   Steve
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