Finally

[miking]

I wish I knew of Echo a few months ago before I bought a Stihl 441. My new 441 starts about as hard as my  100 yr. old grandpa gets out of bed. It floods most the time. I heard Echo was all made in USA except the motor and the motor is made in Japan by the biggest 2 stroke motor company in the world. They should know something about 2 strokes. Windthrown, with a due respect, I think I disa gree with you on this one, even though you know a lot more about chainsaws than me. I wish I would have bought an Echo 680, just a little smaller and 150 bucks less.  

Sorry about the 441, but I'll bet you could sell it for near what you paid for it in a heartbeat and replace with with a 680 just as fast and keep the change. Mine is great after a minor tuning, as all Echo saws seem to need.

[SwampDonkey]

I know one fella that has gone through 3 Echo saws in 4 years. I still can run my original Stihl FS550 I got in 2003 (have as spare) and I use my 2005 bought saw as my main saw. These saws are used 6 months a year day in day out, heat, rain, snow I cut in all kinds of weather.

[ladylake]

 Without properly adjusting a new Echo saw they will burn up in short order if used hard, when adjusted right they last forever but there are poeple that can ruin anything fast.  Steve

[LeeB]

Why you wanna drag me onto this?

[ladylake]

Why you wanna drag me onto this?

  Your not the guy that can ruin anything are you, I thought that was my BIL.   Steve