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Re: truck to haul own logs to mill??
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2010, 12:36:35 pm »
I just find it easier to make a phone call and have someone else deal with the trucking headaches.I have not been at selling logs for 3-4 yeras now.I had a real nice trucker.He would show always show up in a couple days.My theory was if I was trucking than I was not cutting.I felt it would cost me more to truck it myself than to have someone else do it,BUT I was only cutting a load or two a month too.My full time job gets in the way of more.Seems like some places don't want to deal with the little guy anymore.
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Re: truck to haul own logs to mill??
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2010, 12:43:31 pm »
I agree the State Patrol may not always be informed on the up-to-date regulations.   I specifically talked to and received an email that I keep in my truck from the State Patrol central office confirming that logging of your own trees and transporting those logs to the mill within 150 miles of the farm is exempt from CDL requirements.  It probably helps though that I have farm plates on both my truck and trailer.   Part of the confusion might be that since July of 2007 Silviculture; including the growing & harvesting of trees was added to the farming sales tax exemption identical to other farm activities and not everyone is up to date on the regulations.   My equipment setup for hauling logs more than paid for itself after one full season plus I can use same equipment for other farming activities as well

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Re: truck to haul own logs to mill??
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2010, 03:23:16 pm »
I agree the State Patrol may not always be informed on the up-to-date regulations.   I specifically talked to and received an email that I keep in my truck from the State Patrol central office confirming that logging of your own trees and transporting those logs to the mill within 150 miles of the farm is exempt from CDL requirements.  It probably helps though that I have farm plates on both my truck and trailer.   Part of the confusion might be that since July of 2007 Silviculture; including the growing & harvesting of trees was added to the farming sales tax exemption identical to other farm activities and not everyone is up to date on the regulations.   My equipment setup for hauling logs more than paid for itself after one full season plus I can use same equipment for other farming activities as well


Isn't it their job to be up to date on regulations?

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Re: truck to haul own logs to mill??
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2010, 04:08:45 pm »

Isn't it their job to be up to date on regulations?

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Re: truck to haul own logs to mill??
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2010, 06:57:26 pm »
I agree the State Patrol may not always be informed on the up-to-date regulations.   I specifically talked to and received an email that I keep in my truck from the State Patrol central office confirming that logging of your own trees and transporting those logs to the mill within 150 miles of the farm is exempt from CDL requirements.  It probably helps though that I have farm plates on both my truck and trailer.   Part of the confusion might be that since July of 2007 Silviculture; including the growing & harvesting of trees was added to the farming sales tax exemption identical to other farm activities and not everyone is up to date on the regulations.   My equipment setup for hauling logs more than paid for itself after one full season plus I can use same equipment for other farming activities as well
This may work for you because you are logging your own trees but for the loggers that log on someone else's property it won't work. When I was doing tree work having my single axle truck was very convenient but going to the mill it would take me 3 trips with my truck to equal 1 tri axle load.
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Re: truck to haul own logs to mill??
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2010, 09:51:44 pm »
Bill, you are right that if you haul for anyone else (even your neighbor) you need a CDL.  Likewise, if I used only my truck it would not make sense.  However, I have only a very short distance to the mill which helps and I always use my custom tri-axle trailer rated at 20K when I haul to the mill.  Overall my total GCWR with truck & trailer is 40,000.  So in the end, I can handle 5 full cords of pulpwood which is enough to make it worthwhile for me.

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Re: truck to haul own logs to mill??
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2010, 11:34:18 pm »
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With carting your own logs nothing under 8to9 ton payload will be realy efective even at a 20 mile radius i peak my truck out on a 60 mile radus for pine logs  but it has done deliverys upto 600 miles from home i can leagly carry 19800lbs payload on my single drive Inter  ;)

the Ab 180s series like Timberfallers are good for about 6 ton or around 14000lbs here and theres usually no dramas with rego and insurance for Older trucks aslong as they are tidy and in roadworthy condition  ;) ;D ;D 8) 8) The Acco costs me $1200 a year in rego including Tac which is road/3rd party injury insurance. and insurance on the truck is about $300 a year  ;) ;D ;D

When i go to a semi  a bogie drive Kenworth pulling a 40" triaxle with a 28 ton or 61700lbs  payload the rego jumps to about $5900 pa and insurance on the truck will be around $1200 a year and il be shifting a hell of alot more timber and jobs that are too far away atm will be economical to do as you can basicly cut a load and bring it home with you the same day  ;) ;D ;D 8) 8) With small trucks they have their place where its  not to far to haul logs an you dont mind driving a good part of the evening to clear out the landing every night  ive done that plenty of times over the years 2 to 3 loads a night with about  160 mile round trip each ;) :D ;D ;D 8) 8)

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