best felling techniques

[ford62783]

well i have seen sum guys use a tounge and groove notch on trees like that with no tension or excessive forward lean but i would prefer to do it with a lil tension and a vermont notch and as said before its all in the notch

[RSteiner]

well i have seen sum guys use a tounge and groove notch on trees like that with no tension or excessive forward lean but i would prefer to do it with a lil tension and a vermont notch and as said before its all in the notch

Had to ask,,, not sure I know what a vermont notch is. 

Randy

[ford62783]

sorry term aways used around here a vermont notch is a borecut

[Maine372]

i cant believe the guy that landed that spruce top on the 3 phase lived! that could be anywhere from 20-35 thousand volts! (you think 220 hurts)

electricty leaves burns on you where it enters and exits your body. but what it does while its inside is what kills you. think of it as third degree burns on your internal organs. if you live you will have affects for years if not the rest of your life.

while most of my experience is logging i am currently working utility line clearance. let us do what we are trained to do.

[RSteiner]

i cant believe the guy that landed that spruce top on the 3 phase lived! that could be anywhere from 20-35 thousand volts! (you think 220 hurts)

electricty leaves burns on you where it enters and exits your body. but what it does while its inside is what kills you. think of it as third degree burns on your internal organs. if you live you will have affects for years if not the rest of your life.

while most of my experience is logging i am currently working utility line clearance. let us do what we are trained to do.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my cousin the other day, he use to be a climber for the public works department in the city he lived in.  One job was removal of a tree along a major city street.  One small branch was a couple of feet from the power line.  He determined he could hand saw the branch with one hand and hold the branch from falling with the other. 

Just as the branch was cut through a couple of leaves touched the line and gave him a little tingle.  At the same time he pulled his gaffs from the tree and was swinging to a better location.  The tingling stopped as soon as he was suspended by his climbing rope. 

Working around power lines is dangerous stuff.

Randy

[Maine372]

he was part of (if not the only) path to ground. once he pulled his spikes he was no longer a path to ground. his rope must have been dry. ropes that have any moisture in them will be a path to ground as well.

[quietrangr]

The guy with the spruce top should have climbed higher, taking off all the limbs as he went, and cut it off maybe five or six feet from the top, with a rope attached for lowering. As to the popples, notches don't always do the trick. You might have rot in the center, or somewhere else and lose control, or you might just make the cut wrong. If you can't drop straight away from obstacles by pulling or natural lean, trim them down until it's too short to reach the obstacle. Your notch only determines general direction for certain, the tree can still drop to one side or another. Most of the time the tree will go where you want, but with expensive obstacles in the way, is it worth the risk?

[flushcut]

Climb them and piece them down.

[MFinity]

I would say, no matter how experienced a faller you are - pro or not - if you're near a power line CALL THE POWER CO. Things can and do go wrong even for a pro. I was managing a timber sale years ago and there was a 32" ponderosa pine on the edge of the right of way with a lean angling towards the line.  logger really didn't want to wait an extra day for the utility faller to arrive - time is money - but he relented and we got the utility out there the next day. So the utility man got out there and aimed for the tree to lay down alongside the right of way. Which it did but it angled a little bit farther away from the line than he intended and it clipped another tree on the way down. That  sent the top half of that one into the power line - brought the line and two power poles down. 
So it cost the logger an extra day but it didn't cost him his money or his life.

[treefarmer87]

now i dont have to worry about it- got the property
serveyed and they are on the other property