Author Topic: Chunk of wood ID (Read 2544 times)

Dave Shepard · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2010, 06:08:31 pm »

The architect I'm working with is a good wood ID guy. He uses Hoadley's books as well as his own experience. The side shot is from a block that I split some off of. It is very locust like. There is some bark on one piece, and it looks a lot like elm. Wouldn't pitch pine smell like turpentine? This doesn't have any pine smell. It does have a smell, I can't place it. Pitch pine (pinus rigida) was used in New World Dutch Barns, in fact we drove through a stand of it last week on the Thruway on the way out to look at another Dutch barn. This barn was also mostly white pine, but had some oak and the long purlin braces were of the same wood that we are discussing here. I took some shots of the barn when they unloaded it on Wednesday. Here is a shot of one of those long braces. I'll be at work tomorrow, so I'll try to get some better bark shots.

Chuck White · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2010, 07:25:36 pm »

I would say that the wood is HEMLOCK.

Especially going by the first photo.

Dave Shepard · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2010, 03:45:46 pm »

I was able to get a fair close-up of the wood in question. First is the uncropped photo. The piece is 1/2" thick and has 8 rings. That is the largest spacing on rings I could find. There are some bands in the wood that are just the holes, with no apparent individual rings. I'm guessing there was a pattern of suppression and release over the course of the trees life. Second shot is a crop of the first. I hope the image quality holds up. Hopefully this well shed some light on the situation.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2010, 04:39:53 pm »

Looks ash-like, fine rays and solitary late wood pores, tyloses in early wood pores. Kind of dark though, should be more grayish brown for white ash. Not very rot resistant. Was thinking sassafras, but the pore pattern is not right in the latewood. Ash is quite tough stuff in my experience.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2010, 05:21:07 pm »

Slow growing white ash.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2010, 05:36:04 pm »

Closeup view.

Dave Shepard · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2010, 08:24:01 pm »

I think you may have it SD. I compared my photo to the Hoadley photos for white and black ash. Looks like white to me. Early on I had compared the tangential section to white ash, but wasn't sure. Now, I am more confident. I tried to look at a piece of white ash here, but couldn't see it as well as the photo. I may try to get another photo of some known white ash at work where I have my "laboratory" equipment, i.e. a sharp chisel and a tripod for my camera.

LeeB · « **Reply #27 on:** March 23, 2010, 12:03:38 am »

Quote from: LeeB on March 19, 2010, 06:32:19 am

Ash maybe?

Somebody already mentioned ash.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #28 on:** March 23, 2010, 03:15:12 am »

Leeb, I'll give ya credit.

But, the comparison photos help.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #29 on:** March 23, 2010, 03:17:24 am »

Dave, those rays are hard to see without a little moisture and a hand lens.

LeeB · « **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:13:49 am »

Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 23, 2010, 03:15:12 am

Leeb, I'll give ya credit. But, the comparison photos help.

That they do, I based my guess on the original photo though. It looks like red oak but it ain't, so to me that leaves poor man's oak, Ash.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:46:50 am »

Was that a wild ash guess or a serious one?

LeeB · « **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:03:07 pm »

I wouldn't call it wild, I did put a little thought into it and put forward what I thought was a good posibilty, but it weren't any where near serious.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #33 on:** March 24, 2010, 04:09:02 am »

Well you did good, how ever you approached it.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #34 on:** March 24, 2010, 04:31:32 am »

I don't know if you can see the luster on the strips in the bed of the sled, but it shines pretty good after planing.

Ironwood · « **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2010, 06:14:36 am »

Those tyloses are curious. Ash? I dunno.

Ironwood

WDH · « **Reply #36 on:** March 27, 2010, 07:34:00 pm »

I am with Lee on the ash. The color says chestnut, but the density and pore pattern says ash. In ash, there are usually parenchyma cells that circle the latewood pores, and I think that I see that in the close up photo.

Tom · « **Reply #37 on:** March 27, 2010, 09:45:09 pm »

that's a cool looking sled. We don't use them around here, so I'm no judge as to whether it is built well or not, but It sure is pretty. It looks like it would work too. Do you wax the runners? Do you paint the rest?

Is that one like the dogs pull? What kind of load will it carry? What would be the dollar value of one, if it were store-bought?

Dave Shepard · « **Reply #38 on:** March 27, 2010, 11:30:36 pm »

WDH, is this any better? I should have soaked the sample before I sliced the end, I think it would have cut better.

LeeB · « **Reply #39 on:** March 27, 2010, 11:35:36 pm »

I can't help it, I'm a redneck at heart. I wat to know if you can pull the sled with a four wheeler?

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Author Topic: Chunk of wood ID (Read 2544 times)