needing some new 50cc saws.

[Just Me]

What is the Jonsered equivilant to the 345 exp and maybe a notch up in cc. The reason I ask is that I like the local Jonsered dealer in Wolverine Mi. and want to buy from him.

[ladylake]

I haven't been to a overpriced dealer in 20 years, fix 100% myself and it gets fixed right. A older guy I sawed for took his fairly new Stihl MS230 into 2 different dealers cuz it was down on power, the first charged him  $60 for a tune up and a new plug and still no power. The 2nd one charged him $80 for the same thing and still no power so he looked at it and cleaned the muff screen himself and got the power back. I hear stories like that all the time.   I'd sure rather fix a saw myself which I find relaxing than to pay a dealer $60 to $80 a hour with overpriced parts and they might get it fixed right.   Steve

There are plenty of guys who do what you do that are dishonest, inept, shoddy, unreliable, and of generally low character. If we use the same all-inclusive thinking that you apply to dealers, I suppose that we should look at you in the same light as those other clowns.

That type of thinking is kind of offensive when your on the wrong end of it, isn't it?

 I'm sure not saying all dealers are inept and overpriced but there are sure enough of them.  What would you call those 2 dealers that put in a plug , charged the old guy $60  and $80 to put a plug in and didn't fix his saw.   Steve

[weimedog]

 I'm sure not saying all dealers are inept and overpriced but there are sure enough of them.  What would you call those 2 dealers that put in a plug , charged the old guy $60  and $80 to put a plug in and didn't fix his saw.   Steve

As a customer and a frequent buyer....(punny?) we have all kinds of dealers in my area here. It is much easier to throw a blanket over all because of the experience with a few. There will be statistically a few who never have a good dealer near by. And statistically a few who have nothing but good dealers near by, then the rest of us have a mix...But rather than take the two situations and use that to stereo type and entire business...call it what it really is..two lousy situations we are hearing second and maybe third hand. And it doesn't matter if they were true accounts, because they would fall into the statistical probability of lousy experiences...and proves really nothing other than there is all kinds of situations that move that statistical curve. Bottom line?

The smart customers spend time to see who's a good dealer and who's not for THEM. AND also realize there are certain types of issues Dealers can't cost effectively deal with (for the customer)..especially if a customer is a reasonable mechanic.BUT there are usually areas where its a win for both the mechanically adept customer and the dealer...I have several places that make sense for me strictly from a business perspective and one or two that do both from a business and are friends as well. My saw experience as it is wouldn't be possible without a couple of really good dealers and really good people who are dealers..(You know who you are and thank you.)

[SawTroll]

What is the Jonsered equivilant to the 345 exp and maybe a notch up in cc. The reason I ask is that I like the local Jonsered dealer in Wolverine Mi. and want to buy from him.

The equivalent of the old 45cc version is the 2147, and the equivalent of the newer 50cc one is the 2153. Both are a tad heavier than the Husky versions, because of different plastic covers and the streight across handlebar, but I doubt you will notise the difference.

[Spike60]

 I'm sure not saying all dealers are inept and overpriced but there are sure enough of them.  What would you call those 2 dealers that put in a plug , charged the old guy $60  and $80 to put a plug in and didn't fix his saw.   Steve

Well Steve, I'd call them both crooks.

I got one like that just down the road from me. There's no advertising available that would send me as many customers as I get from the way he treats people.

But I realize that not everyone has a decent alternative, and your old buddy struck out with both of those dealers.

Guys like you, who can do their own work, need to be handled a bit differently than the average customer. I just had a situation today with a guy who can do most of his own work. Brought in his 385XP with an air leak. Found that it was the boot, (as usual). Before going any further, I called him up and asked him if he wanted to do it himself, or if he wanted me to do it. I pull the jug, clean everything up, put a new gasket in, so it's kind of like rebuild for which I charge an hour. He told me to go ahead and do it, but the key with guys like that is to let them make the call on whether or not they want to pay for the labor.

[Just Me]

What is the Jonsered equivilant to the 345 exp and maybe a notch up in cc. The reason I ask is that I like the local Jonsered dealer in Wolverine Mi. and want to buy from him.

The equivalent of the old 45cc version is the 2147, and the equivalent of the newer 50cc one is the 2153. Both are a tad heavier than the Husky versions, because of different plastic covers and the streight across handlebar, but I doubt you will notise the difference.

Ahh! I stopped by the dealer a couple of times with the intention of taking one home, but I picked them up and I just could not feel comfortable. I didn't notice the straight handle, and now that makes sense. My old saw had an angled handle. Looks like it will be a Husky after all..

Thanks, Larry