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Author Topic: My Stihl 029 problem  (Read 2623 times)

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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2003, 12:47:39 pm »
Heay Kevin,
My digital tach just came in. can you give me the RPM ranges and your procedure for dialing in the carb on this 029? It runs pretty good now, plug is a little dark so it is close.

Thanks
WS

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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2003, 02:50:37 pm »
Your manual should have the rpm.
Try this link for starters ...
http://www.madsens1.com/sawtune.htm

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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2003, 03:32:42 pm »
Be sure the air filter is clean.
The no load speed for that saw should be NO MORE than 13,000rpm.
The idle speed for my 62cc Husqvarna is 2500rpm just to give you an idea.

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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2003, 08:25:41 pm »
While yer at it with the tach, Stihl says the oil output should be between 6 and 15 ml per minute at 10000 rpm, depending on where you've set the flow rate.
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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2011, 01:45:14 pm »

 Wow, so many years ago and I never fixed this saw. I wound up buying a nice 044 from a FF member and shelved the 029.

Well I figured it was time to give it another try. I always liked that saw.

I took the housing, handlebar and brake off and am going to replace the gasline and impulse lines even tho they don't look bad. If still bad then I'll rebuild or replace the carb which I had rebuilt before.

 I did a compression check and it has 130psi. piston and cylinder look smooth

Anything else you guys can think of?

Jon
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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2011, 02:43:21 pm »
(Golly! Is this really an eight year old thread?)
 
........I pulled it after it stalled and it was dry, and the anode was light on one side and dark on the other

This is a sure indication that though the carb is set rich, the saw is gradually being starved of fuel.
Some possibilities come to mind.
* A blocked air vent in the fuel tank.The 029 has the tube and screw vent if I am not mistaken. Just a bit of sawdust intrusion into the tube would clog the vent.To check if this is the cause, when the saw reaches the stalling stage open the fuel cap and close it.This will equalize the pressure in the tank.The saw will then run normally for some time.
* A partially clogged impulse hose.This would weaken the impulses to activate the pump diaphragm fully.The result would be that under load the fuel supply will not be able to catch up with the demand.
Its possible to pull out the impulse hose and check for partial blockage by blowing through it.If there is any resistance, clean the hose out or replace it.
* A sticky jet valve. This causes air to leak into the metering chamber so that the fuel level in the chamber drops till the engine stalls. Try replacing the jet valve.
* I had a 029 come to me with a similar stalling problem and this is what I found before I lost my wits.
The saw did have air compensator.But the bit of the air filter that seats into the air compensator was sealed, probably for a carb without the air compensator.This sealed end seats so well into the rubber boot of the air compensator that it forms an airtight seal.This in turn prevents the metering diaphragm from moving downwards to activate the metering lever.This results in the saw becoming leaner and leaner till it dies from fuel starvation.
Try running the saw without the air filter.If it runs better check out the air filter.
Just punching a couple of pin holes in that sealed bit of that filter solved the problem for me.

If any of the above work for you after these eight years, I will be really happy.
Good Luck.

Joe


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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2011, 08:43:53 pm »

      8) 8) It's runnin!!  8) 8)

I replaced the impulse and fuel lines and got it runnin but same ol problem, didn't want to idle and when you pulled the trigger it would sound like it was runnin out of gas. I also noticed that when I ran it without the air cleaner it would blow gassy fog out of the carb when it was bogging down.

I rebuilt the carb and the needle valve had green sticky stuff on it. Mabe from sittin for so long? I don't know if it was replacing the diaphram or the needle valve but it's runnin pretty good. I was cutting with it tonight.

 
BTW I found the tach I bought to set this one up so after I get a replacement battery I'll set the high idle.

Thanks for all your help.
Jon
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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2011, 01:30:32 am »

      8) 8) It's runnin!!  8) 8)

I replaced the impulse and fuel lines and got it runnin but same ol problem, didn't want to idle and when you pulled the trigger it would sound like it was runnin out of gas. I also noticed that when I ran it without the air cleaner it would blow gassy fog out of the carb when it was bogging down.


Blowing gassy fog eh?
The flywheel key is broken and the ignition timing is off.
Please check this out and confirm.

Joe

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Re: My Stihl 029 problem
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2011, 06:58:15 am »

 It's not doing it now that I rebuilt the carb.
It's running pretty good. I wonder if fuel was getting around the diaphram.

Jon
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