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Grapple Trailer
« on: December 09, 2009, 08:05:19 am »
Thinking of purchasing a grapple trailer, like those from Baileys in spring for my tree care company.

Does anyone have one?  Pro's,/con's/experiences welcome.
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 01:38:07 pm »
Will this be used on road or off road and what will you pull it with?
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 02:38:45 pm »
On road.

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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 04:12:47 pm »
I have a blue ox road trailer and a metavic off road trailer.  Both are fine machines.  the blue ox has the standard loader, rated a 4400 lbs I think.  I continue to be amazed by what It picks up.  I will add that you need a pretty good area to drop the logs to sort and trim, I worked in the mud for the first few years and have my share of horror stories.






 

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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 06:33:24 pm »
i have a loader like the ones from baileys. my is a jms 170. 17 foot reach, 42" grapple, looks like a toy, and alot of people have laughed at me when i pull up. but then i load whatever it is they need moved, and their thought change. it picks up alot more than it looks like it should. i bought mine mounted on a 14' dump trailer ready to go for $9600 off ebay. makes me alot of money for what it is, and makes life around the mill a whole lot easier. occasionally it would be nice to have a longer reach, but to lift more the outriggers would have to be alot wider. i pick up one outrigger pretty often.

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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 07:02:31 pm »
Do you have any pictures?
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 07:54:50 pm »
Any also hear of Northeast Implement?  They seem to build OTR trailers to your specs.  It would also be nice as they are only about 4 hrs away.
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 09:51:40 pm »
you might want to think about a gooseneck . You can haul more over the road. The trailer will have much better behavior.

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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 11:20:16 pm »
I have one from Bailey's and it's great.   OneWithWood also has one.

This is what I have.  I think OWW's is similar.









I made mine much more useful by adding a winch to it.

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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 07:33:54 am »
you might want to think about a gooseneck . You can haul more over the road. The trailer will have much better behavior.

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No gooseneck.  Won't work with a chip box on the truck, and not interested in getting another truck. 

Thanks for the pics Dr B.

Have you had any trouble with the unit?  How's the quality..paint/fit/finish?
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 10:00:12 am »
I have a Metavic trailer and grapple and it will allow me to work in very tight spaces and I can trailer over small distances.  I have the articulated model which I recommend is a huge advantage and added a portable hydraulic power unit in the back of my truck so that I can use it without the tractor hydraulics.  It a great piece of equipment and would never be without one.

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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 11:53:35 am »
brendonv,
Carl Neutzel also manufacturers grapple trailers, he can build a trailer to spec or he has a few stock models.

They are a very nice unit using Nokia loaders.

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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2009, 12:34:34 pm »
Thanks guys.

I've got info coming from Baileys and Northeast Implement.  Carl N. was no answer/e-mail return yet.

I like the look of the Baileys loader, but I was a told the wait for replacement parts is over a week, as they are coming from Canada.  Northeast is 4.25 hrs away, and they said they will disassemble a loader at the yard to get the parts to me.  I'm hoping they can put together something for around the Baileys price w/shipping.  I'll save on the shipping going to Northeast as I'll pick it up.  Would be nice to really see it before I hand over the check.

I'll keep this updated as time progresses. 
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2009, 05:03:33 pm »
did you check with blue ox and payeur for metavic?  send me a pm and I will give you a cell number for pierre of blue ox.
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2009, 06:53:29 pm »
Blue ox where like over 30k last I asked.    :-\
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 02:29:07 pm »
I paid 29 for mine but it is rugged and has well paid for itself, doubling my business.
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2009, 03:25:12 pm »
Ya, the OX seems rugged as hell.  A little pricey for me, although worth it I'm sure.

I found a bunch of pictures of the Carl N. trailers, and a video on youtube.  They look more rugged than the Baileys trailers, he is out of town but they are also sending me info.

In all honesty, I don't haul a ton of wood.  I currently run a Thomas mini skidsteer with grapple, and load into a 6x12 10kGVW dump trailer.  I dump all the wood at my buddies house.  The problem with the DT is you can't just unload partially.  I'd like to keep some of the desirable wood for myself, for future milling, and I'd like to choose the perfect size firewood for my own use.  He's grateful with what he gets in the end, as they haven't had to buy wood this year or last as I supplied it all free.

I'm young and figure that the grapple trailer would be the last large purchase for the business, and be paid for by the time I have real bills.   :D
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2009, 03:37:18 pm »
I don't think you can go wrong with the Bailey's trailer.  It's probably the most economic choice out there.   Just put a deck on it before you use it.   I have some expeirence hauling without having the deck on it.  ;D
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2009, 06:00:20 am »
It looks like the baileys 7 ton would cost around 22k for the pieces, trailer loader and power.  I don't know if that would also include mounting the loader and the power pack.  I found 2 used trailers on the web this morning, unfortunately both are goosneck.  A wheeler jr for 16k and a blue ox for 22.  If you are not looking to use the trailer till spring maybe try to find one used.
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Re: Grapple Trailer
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2009, 06:08:43 am »
I look every other day for used.

Found a Silva Hill w/Nokka in Oregon for 15k, way to far though.

I check just for loader too.


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