Power receider for headblocks

[GT]

Hello, Does anyone have any ideas on how to put a headblock return on this Bel Saw. The kind i would like to have would return the headblocks as you return the carriage.
GT

 

[beenthere]

Not sure how it would fit your carriage, but one mill I worked around had a rail that sat between the tracks, that could be raised by the mill operator. That rail would contact a drive wheel that was connected to the shaft connecting the headblocks. The result when the rail was raised would be the headblocks returning as long as the rail was contacting the drive wheel. The rail was v shaped, as was the drive wheel to match that shape.

[James P.]

I think in this catalog they have power receder . Its parts for american sawmills. I just search the forum and found the link.Once there you may find other useful ideas. not really sure. I know that the trick with making a receder will be switching from handset to power and back as needed  http://www.owwm.com/files/PDF/AmericanSawMill/1928-001-050.pdf

[Ron Wenrich]

Power receders also have to put your setworks into neutral.  That means it has to raise your setwork paws.  Without it, you won't be able to make it work.  I don't know if the Belsaw setworks has that capability. 

[Meadows Miller]

Gday

Yeah Ron you would ned to make up a trip to lift them another tricky thing with the belsaws to consider is that the settworks shaft floats with the headblock frame 

 i came across that problem when i was thinking about somthing simple for GT to rig up like a disk on the shaft and a inflatable rubber wheel set just below the hight of the bottom of the carriage at right angles to the setworks you would need a pretty wide receeder bar for that one leave it with me ill try and come up with something Mate 

Regards Chris

[bandmiller2]

GT,it may not be worth the effort,those belsaw ratchet back easily.Possibly a gearbox and crank,sprockets on the set shaft and gearbox.Would be tough to power receed.Frank C.

[GT]

Thanks for all of the info. The reason I would like to do this is . My Belsaw does not rachet back at all. It has one dog and it is for advancing the log. When you want to move the headblocks back you grab the handle and on it it has a lever you flip up and then push the lever all the way down to the back of the carriage and that releases the headblocks. At that time you push the headblocks back by hand. My Belsaw is backwards to me To advance the log you push the handle towards the back of the carriage, You do not pull it as other mills . IS THIS THE WAY ALL BELSAW ARE? Thanks GT

[James P.]

GT did you look at all the belsaw stuff over at owwm. I don't know whats there I have dialup so downloading it all is just to time consuming. Maybe you could look at other belsaws there and see what there setworks look like.

[paul case]

the belsaw m-14 i used had 1 handle to move the headblocks. it pulled toward the operator to advance and to recede you flipped a dog and pushed back. it ratcheted both ways.  pc

[GT]

Thanks James P.
  I do not know what owwm stands for are where to look . Let me know thanks GT

[beenthere]

Google on owwm brings up

http://www.owwm.com/

Old wood working machines 

[bandmiller2]

GT,your Belsaw is different than what I've seen.Normally when you pull the "D" handle twords you you advance for a cut ,to recieder you twist the "D" handle to engauge the outher pawl to reciede.I can see from your photo why it works backwards on outher mills with that type of headblock the set gear is under the rack to give you the proper direction.GT you must be missing a pawl setup for recieding,possibly show us more pictures of your setup.Whatever you need shouldn't be hard to make. Frank C.

[bandmiller2]

GT,do you know the history of your mill?? Someone has modified it, it looks like some parts don't belong.It looks like someone made up those knee/headblocks with the rack on top.Usally the rack is stationary and the set shaft turns on it advancing the headblocks,that would give you the propper pull to advance and push back to reicede.Frank C.