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Offline zopi

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2009, 07:55:40 am »
Usually the building code exempts farm buildings...does in VA anyway...they'll still tax you on them, though.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2009, 09:04:46 am »
if you plan on building something without permits its best to use the don't ask ,don't tell code. I have come to the conclusion that none of it makes fair sense. Every step cost money which unless you saved a good chunk of change requires you to get a loan. Basically this is a problem I have with our culture. I don't want a loan and I don't want to buy into someone elses idea of how my home should be built. I think a person should be able to build themselves a shelter without going thru a mess of codes as long as the structure is not for sale. It could be classified as non inspected. Buyer beware , also uninsureable. if our ancestors had to build by code  we would be a lot different country. We would have lost the Revolutionary War. While we are all living our lives the county councils are making laws that hinder us from trying to live a simple life that doesn't require debt. personally when I am gone I expect a bull dozier to remove my fabricated foot print.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2009, 09:08:43 am »
In Catoosa county no building over 100 square feet is exempt from a building permit and inspection. as zopi said organized crime. Let's see I have broken that law at least a dozen times.  The county is now trying to implement a new "fire tax" on all structures that have power. If that happens I'm screwed cause every building on my place has power, From the biggest barn to the two dog houses.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2009, 01:58:47 pm »
They made a local farmer tear down a REALLY nice ranch house he had built. After about a  4 year fight he tore down the framed in structure (never got to drywall or utilities), it looks as though they let him rebuild on the exsisting one piece poured foundation. He tried to avoid the permiting process. Sorry #$% buracrats. At least it looks like he is headed in the right direction now.

                   I think they made an example out of him. Ironwood
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2009, 04:50:39 pm »
A lot of rural counties in Missouri and Arkansas do not require any building permits.  The county judges would be committing political suicide if building permits were proposed. :)  Both states adhere to the UBC but again rural counties do not hire the inspectors to enforce the regulations. :)

Guess that’s the reason counties are using spy planes and helicopters...they want to know about the outlaw buildings so the owner can pay his due share of property taxes. ::)
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2009, 05:31:17 pm »
I should stay out of it.  But try not paying your property taxes and see who really owns "your" property.  Same with your car/truck registration with out paying that tax it looks fine sitting in the driveway, so do you really own it?   Thing are quite different than we all think they are.   I should stop before I have a wreck.   

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2009, 08:20:52 pm »
I agree with all and being on the local planning board I still feel if you buy the land and pay your taxes you should be able to do what you want. In our town ag bldg's are exempt from paying for a permit but still must get one if it is over 100 sqft. The main reason it has come to all this is because of contractors building sub code and most of there customers dont know they are getting riped off, So we hire a "CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER" to police it. We are all dealing with a broken system ::). Now for big brother watching, down load google earth and you will never leave any thing outside again. Makes ya wanna move under ground :D one more thing, If buildings were outlawed only us outlaws would build them and saw wood for the others 8)
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2009, 12:04:46 am »
if i had a hill big enough, i would move underground...
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2009, 06:56:27 am »
I just finished sawing a shed for a building inspector.  Lets just say an investment in the future.  :D
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2009, 08:28:53 am »
One of our local code folks goes to my church, he showed up one day at the shop to introduce me to one of his co-workers. Never hurts to keep those folks on yer side.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2009, 08:47:56 am »
We've built two outlaw buildings on Dad's place. One small barn for the horses and a big pole barn for the sawmill. His county uses Google Earth or some other satellite technology to find the buildings and assess taxes on them. Never had an inspector show up at the property, though, unless he did it while we were away. My county? We're among the lucky few with no inspectors ;D.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2009, 09:51:01 am »
the county where i live has no building codes. a neighbor is building a home to live in he could not believe there was no codes or inspections he went to the courthouse and asked to be sure. but we have yankees moving in that are building mansions and are pushing for building codes and do not want any homes being built that are valued at less than one hundred thousand dollars. the time is coming that you will not be allowed to build your own home. it will have to be built by a licensed contractor with lumber from lowes or home depot. and a mortguage will be required even if you have the money to pay for it. we have to support the banks and loan companies.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2009, 10:25:30 am »
I agree with most of what's been said about being able to build on your own land. However, my experience as a home inspector has shown me what some people build & then sell to unsuspecting buyers. 2x6 floor joists spanning 18 feet, undesized load bearing lumber, faulty & dangerous electrical & plumbing. We are a reactive society. After a few deaths from poor construction practices we passed laws. Now we are passing more laws & many are just plane old ridiculous. I know because I have to enforce some of them as a code officer.  ;)
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2009, 10:34:02 am »
I should stay out of it.  But try not paying your property taxes and see who really owns "your" property. 

Sad but true.  Even after I pay off my mortgage, I won't ever own my house.  Stop paying property taxes and the Sheriff will seize it and sell it to someone that will  :-\

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2009, 11:29:20 am »
but we have yankees moving in that are building mansions and are pushing for building codes and do not want any homes being built that are valued at less than one hundred thousand dollars.

Welcome to Florida's hospitality.  We have welcomed people for years who brought, what they were running away from, with them.  Now they have Disney and a State where you can't sneeze without some Gov. bureaucrat knocking on the door.  :)
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2009, 11:59:05 am »
"Sad but true.  Even after I pay off my mortgage, I won't ever own my house.  Stop paying property taxes and the Sheriff will seize it and sell it to someone that will" 

 Boy aint that the truth. My nieghbor built a BIG house, his tax bill is as much as my house payment, no end in site and will only go up up up. #$%^ shame.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2009, 01:13:34 pm »
Those political bums do not keep to the constitution. They are the law breakers. The founding fathers would be on our side. For the most part politicians are crooks and in it for themselves. 
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2009, 05:45:57 pm »
For the most part politicians are crooks and in it for themselves. 

BUT, we keep re-electing them !!!
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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2009, 05:55:10 pm »

  Even after I pay off my mortgage, I won't ever own my house.  Stop paying property taxes and the Sheriff will seize it and sell it to someone that will  :-\

My real estate tax costs as much per month as I paid for rent when I was in my early twenties. It's pretty shocking !!!
 Particularly when I consider what I get in return.
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« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2009, 06:01:59 pm »

 Now, Bunny, You get to hep all them unfortunate types what are on Welfare and Food Stamps, and just WISH they could get a REAL job, and pay them taxes, just like you do.  ::) ::) ;D ;D :D :D
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