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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #100 on: December 11, 2009, 01:15:28 pm »
I've noticed over the years that areas where there were no regs before, and new regs are put in place, they usually go overboard with strictness.  In areas where regs have existed all along tend to stick with the older, less severe rules.

I've had 2 septic systems approved for this place.  In both cases, a County Health Dept. inspector came out and bored a little hole.  When they located a little red stripe in the soil which indicates the "mean high water" level, they could tell if the drain field had to be in a mound(and how high), of could be in the ground.  In both cases, that service and all other inspections were included in the $250 permit fee.  I couldn't find much to complain about there. :) :)
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #101 on: December 11, 2009, 01:25:00 pm »
Same here, Lady came out, looked around asked me how many bedrooms signed a paper and left. No perk test no nothing. $250.00 Pretty much Painless.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #102 on: December 11, 2009, 01:39:37 pm »
  I don't chime in much but in my book if you were sold property and bought it then you own it period you should be able to do what you want when you want thats my definition of "free country" so tired of people poking their noses in other peoples business and pockets its sick "free" is only a matter of perception and I think we as Americans still have it better than alot of countries in the world but I wouldn't go as far as to say we have freedom as our founding fathers seen it!!--- Now all that complaining aside where are some states/towns where you can afford a decent amount of acerage plus build pretty much what you want out of what you want including wood you mill yourself without jumping through hoops or selling body parts to pay the taxes???

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« Reply #103 on: December 11, 2009, 01:49:34 pm »
It all comes down to people in government keeping their jobs at all costs plain and simple. They do this by taxing and regulating, and having control over us. The more they can take, the more their jobs are secure.

It it's going to get worse in every part of this country, as this is a self defeating monopoly. They will crash and burn each and every one of us in the process, and then ultimately they crash and burn as there will be nothing left to take.
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« Reply #104 on: December 11, 2009, 02:15:08 pm »
  Agreed Jpgreen the "fall of rome" so to speak been seeing it happen from the inside out for a long long time its very sad that greed and corruption have taken over and no one seems to even want to look at it seems most people  nowadays do not have time to look outside of their own lives because its so busy and they are trying to only work and hold onto what they still do have.  I think it will take a total collapse before we really get the "change" that everyone is looking for like you said won't be alot left to fight over when no one has anything~!~

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« Reply #105 on: December 11, 2009, 02:48:22 pm »
Well............... I before I bought my property I looked at some places that didn't have a septic system just let it run out on the ground. Now I'm not a big brother fan but I do like to know my waters safe.
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« Reply #106 on: December 11, 2009, 03:08:25 pm »
On my hill in NYS (and most of the rest of the county) the only septic they will approve is a aboveground systems with special hauled in dirt. 20 to 30 grand. Keeps out the riff raff and most normal people.

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« Reply #107 on: December 11, 2009, 03:22:11 pm »
On my hill in NYS (and most of the rest of the county) the only septic they will approve is a aboveground systems with special hauled in dirt. 20 to 30 grand. Keeps out the riff raff and most normal people.

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Yikes! Dang glad I don't live in NYS anymore!

Is that because of rock and not being able to perk?
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« Reply #108 on: December 11, 2009, 03:34:23 pm »
shallow to bedrock ,lotsa springs ,crappy soil you name it we have it. Course they don't take into account you may be draining into a 100 pasture and it might be 1/2 mile to a watercourse. Rules is Rules. Made all the old houses and fallen down shacks worth more because they don't want to know about present systems. Guess They can only abuse so many people at a time.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #109 on: December 11, 2009, 05:18:56 pm »
A friend was building an equipment building at his sand pit, the health inspector told him he would need a mound system for his drain field, this was right in the same sand pit that he took sand from for 90% of all of the drain fields in the area. ::)
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #110 on: December 11, 2009, 07:32:36 pm »
In NYS we are allowed to use rough cut for code buildings. The sawyer must sign a statement that the codes inspector supplies that everything is #2 or better. There is no training or certification required for a sawyer to sign this. I have so far signed 3 of them. I use as a basis a comparison with the junk one buys at the big box stores. I cut up and burn anything that even comes close to the poorer of what I see labeled #2 in those stores. I use it to make maple syrup. That is why I have no problem selling my lumber even though it is about the same price as those stores. Quality sells.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #111 on: December 11, 2009, 10:53:36 pm »
  pasbuild   Now that is funny!!!!

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #112 on: December 12, 2009, 06:20:10 am »
I use as a basis a comparison with the junk one buys at the big box stores.

All they sell in the yards here is utility grade softwood. They try to price it as #1. I said there isn't a stick in these bundles number one, boys. Better drop the price.  ;) For some reason the yards buy on the cheap and try to make a killing.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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