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Outlaw buildings
« on: November 29, 2009, 07:32:20 am »
If I was a building inspector I'd sure keep an eye on you mill owning rascals,seems where ever you go outlaw buildings pop up.Frank C.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2009, 08:02:54 am »
I always tell people I have a permit if you want to see it i'll go get it I keep it where it's dry in my gun cabinet. Stay right here i'll be right back ;) :D
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2009, 08:04:25 am »
Unforunate sign of the times. Gov't get out of my life.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2009, 08:50:13 am »
AS I have said before "It's my property, I own it Hell deep and Heaven high and I will do with it what I *DanG well please" And the gooberment can go to the blazes.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2009, 09:03:43 am »
And, it's not even law, (or outlaw).....it's "regulations".

Grade it and stamp it baby......grade it and stamp it.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2009, 05:37:59 pm »
I've had building inspectors ask me "where are you sawing next" !
My reply is always "down the road a ways" !

If the building inspectors started following sawmills around, they'd put 'em out of business!

I saw, and the customer can do what he/she wants to with his/her lumber!
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2009, 05:49:37 pm »
One of the largest building contractors in my county just finished a 2800+sq.ft. home here in Brookhaven.  He used 100% Magicman sawed lumber.  The City Building Inspector and the Lender both approved the lumber before he started.

The carpenters commented that it was the best lumber that they had worked with.  Virtually all of it would have graded #1.  Not the first board used in the framing was "store bought".

Makes me happy..... :)  and keeps me sawing...... 8)
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2009, 06:14:22 pm »
Hush Magicman, everyone will want to move to MS. ;D

I wonder how much money was saved using magicman lumber?
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2009, 06:22:47 pm »
Quote from: fishpharmer on November 29, 2009, 06:14:22 pm
I wonder how much money was saved using magicman lumber?

This might be an interesting answer.

Our county has started using spy planes.  I don't know how to combat that.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 06:31:15 pm »
Spy planes???  If I was a county taxpayer I would tell them to use google earth....

As for the grade in stamp deal, I like magicman's stamp and the fact that he was able to get around the requirement.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2009, 09:49:36 pm »
I agree this is all slavery and tyranny.

How hard would it be to become a certified lumber grader in the USA?
Does anybody know?

The wood I see at monopolistic Lows and Home Despot (spellings intentional) is absolute crap.
I see the pith in way too many boards and it is soft, light, weak and toxic.
But a nail gun will go through it.
The oak boards I cut laugh at a nail gun.
Maybe if there was a way to shoot nails into our hardwood we could compete better?
If there was a special nail or by using higher pressure.
Any ideas?


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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2009, 10:05:28 pm »
There are nailguns that will do the job. They are either very expensive, or require a special $1500 compressor. There's got to be someone to contact in each state about native lumber laws. I'll have to research who you contact in Mass.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »
I've got the native lumber law book for NH - simple enough to be able to "grade" your lumber for use in construction. I'll scan what I have and post it but from what I've read the building inspector "must" accept the lumber as "graded" if the sawyer follows the set procedures..

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2009, 10:10:32 pm »
They use helicopters around here, about once every year or so. @#$%^.

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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2009, 10:14:56 pm »
They use crop copters around here. Other violations are enforced via satellite.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2009, 10:17:37 pm »
I've built a couple of those outlaw buildings. The inspector came out to inspect a subsequent build and noticed them. All I said was "Don't worry they're already on the tax rolls" . That's all it took and all he cared about.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2009, 10:35:57 pm »
tax evasion aside, truly A MAN ARMED WITH COMMON SENSE IS ... hard to find in goverment beurecrap!  pc
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2009, 10:46:51 pm »
There's not supposed to be a tax on "temporary" buildings.

In the past, on sandy ground, I just use a PT bottom plate and just put it on the ground. (That 'tent' is 10 years old  ;D )

Someone in Minnesota told me that 'pole-barn' style is temporary... I just built one of them to cover a travel trailer ;D

All depends on the definition of 'temporary' I guess
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2009, 10:53:11 pm »
I'll have you know; I resemble that remark........


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Quote from: bandmiller2 on November 29, 2009, 07:32:20 am
If I was a building inspector I'd sure keep an eye on you mill owning rascals,seems where ever you go outlaw buildings pop up.Frank C.
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Re: Outlaw buildings
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2009, 10:59:08 pm »
When I saw the “Outlaw buildings”, I just figured you folks were just building a line shack or poker room. Out here, 14’ x 14’ with no foundation is considered portable. (Tax exempt) The helicopters and planes are looking for “other outlaw crops”.
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