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Sawing Shelter
« on: November 06, 2009, 07:34:37 pm »
Could anyone give me some input on building a shed for my Bandsaw mill?

I have a Cookssaw MP32.
It is about 20 feet long and maybe 6 feet wide.

We can get Cedar trees to use for posts.  These can be sunk into 3 foot deep holes.  My concept is to keep the saw on the ground.  It is up on several thick boards.

It would be nice to use wood on the roof.  Tin/metal roofing will cost a lot.  But I am afraid that wood might curl in the sun and the rain would come in.  I would appreciate any ideas on an inexpensive roof too.

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 07:57:43 pm »
As big a building as you can go with, then make it about 4 times bigger. Still won't be big enough.

I have thought about wood on the roof, far as it got, wonder what it would be like to soak the boards in something like Chevron Shingle Oil? Have never used the product, just read about it. Figure it would have to be oil based, more saturation the better.
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 12:16:01 am »
I have an old lumber storage shed on my property that was stripped of the metal skin before I bought the place.  Don't have the $$ to re-tin it but I plan on buying a 2 used billboard signs 20x60' and fasten it down.  I have a couple of smaller ones that have been outside for a year now and still in great shape.  There's an out-fit on ebay that sells them.

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 12:26:03 am »
what about cedar shingles

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 07:03:15 am »
Campy,you won't be able to build a building large enough, none of us have been able to.Two biggies for you to consider are ease of loading long logs and handling long timbers,and the exhaust from your engine.A simple shed roof is fine to cover the mill and you and the offbearer.Find a co. that installes rubber membrane roofing they always have good scraps.Roll roofing is quite reasonable.Frank C.
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 08:34:42 am »
I build so I can add on as needed  You could start maybe with half of a 32x40  building You build a 16x40 shed and when the need and the money arise  then add the other half  And besure to make the first is high so you can add wings to the front and back   Also you can add to the length as needed

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 07:15:37 pm »
i must be the only sawmill with enough space under cover! im set up in an old chicken farm 64000 sq  ft is enuf. i could store my logs inside with half of it filled with hay. people here in ne ok would use solid 1 inch decked roof with a product like shingles called rolled roofing. it has asphalt n gravel finish just like shingles. probably higher cost than secondary metal. i just finised a storage shed (for someone else) 30' x30' the roof metal cost us $367. someone in your area probably sell this stuff. its not used. factory seconds works real well.    pc
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 07:42:35 pm »
I roofed mine with concrete decking....it's ugly, not square, not plumb, but it keeps the rain off....sort of...and as of tonight it has light! sawing at night and being able to see is kewl...lets me work outside during the day and saw in the evening...
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 07:49:08 pm »
The cost of metal roofing is down right now. I just picked up about 1,700 square feet of new roofing for $0.33 a square ft. Go directly to the guy who gets it in the roll and cuts it to length for the best price.
At this price a 12 x 30 roof would cost about $120.
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2009, 08:13:35 pm »
I love concrete decking. You can safely span large distances, that is the only reason to use it as it is pricey. The design should take advantage of the 4-6' span the stuff can w/stand, and needs no decking underneath. I found when reusing some outdoor pallet racking that had it spanning the 42" spacing and then overhanging several feet on each side. We can and do get 30" heavy wet snows every 10 years or so, and it can take this kind of loading. Should last a lifetime. I will be making a shelter for my mill soon and plan on using it w/ steel bar joists.

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 08:26:35 pm »
Thanks for all the great input.
It is much appreciated.

Should I pipe the engine exhaust out of the shed with a long flexible exhaust pipe that protrudes through the roof?

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 06:45:56 am »
Campy,you could go through the roof with the exhaust but I think going out the back away from where you stand would be better.How high the shed is and the prevailing wind also have bearing.Myself I would just blow it out the back with an extension the simpler the better.Frank C.
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2009, 08:26:40 am »
I love concrete decking. You can safely span large distances, that is the only reason to use it as it is pricey. The design should take advantage of the 4-6' span the stuff can w/stand, and needs no decking underneath. I found when reusing some outdoor pallet racking that had it spanning the 42" spacing and then overhanging several feet on each side. We can and do get 30" heavy wet snows every 10 years or so, and it can take this kind of loading. Should last a lifetime. I will be making a shelter for my mill soon and plan on using it w/ steel bar joists.

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2009, 09:42:32 am »
Concrete decking... Huh? what's that?
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2009, 09:45:04 am »
way to go zopi,  free is the best price!!!!! :) :) :)even better when you can get something free that you can use. this way you can save yourself the cost of that "pricey" stuff   pc
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2009, 09:48:48 am »
Concrete decking... Huh? what's that?

Semi corrugated steel plate that is used to support concrete when it is poured in an overhead application...think parking garage...the high steel goes up the decking goes across it, and the concrete gets poured on that...like floor underlament...
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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2009, 08:13:04 am »
Hey campy,
I build a lot of pole barns and buy a lot of metal.  You might want to check out AB martin. The make metal roofing and I usually buy the screw down type. They have about 20 colors.  Good news is they have a seconds program. If the batch didn't come out exactly like they wanted, they put it aside and will sell it for half price. They'll cut it to what ever length you need. Have any acessories(roof cap, screws,J-mold,Z-strips,ect.) That you could need. They ship also.  For a small project, shipping will be exspensive. Good thing is that the warrenty is like 50 years.  Look them up they have 2 plants in Pa. And will ship anywhere.  Call them and have them send you a brocure.

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2009, 05:09:06 pm »
Concrete decking is usually galvanized heavyish sheet that lasts nearly forever. Also fairly deep corragations 2+" .GOOD Stuff. No pics of it though.

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2009, 06:45:54 pm »
Concrete decking... Huh? what's that?
Heavy stout material .My shop which is 60 by 70 is roofed with it ,22 guage .There is around 6000 pounds of it on that roof and let me tell you a 34 foot piece is heavy as lead .

If you use the stuff let me give you a little tip .Spend the extra money for galvanized else you'll end up painting it every 6-7 years like I do  --oh what was I thinking at the time . ::)

Now bargain hunters if you want a deal get in some of those farmer magazines in the midwest .Greenfield Indiana,close to Indianapolis is the metal roofing capitol of the US I think .Shop after shop after shop .They get odd ball ,off color and other stuff they nearly give away if you get the connections .

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Re: Sawing Shelter
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2009, 09:50:09 am »
isn't most metal white on the back....regardless of the face color?

i know you can buy "rainbow" around here pretty cheap.......i wasn't thinking about turning the white face up........just a thought

 


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