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Making a Bombardier log skidder
« on: August 03, 2009, 01:07:32 pm »
Hello all,
Brand new to the forum. (please be gentle) :o
I am attempting to put together a logskidder of sorts. I have an old Bombardier sw48 similar to what spruce bunny has.  The biggest issue that I need to overcome is hooking up a hydraulic system. It has a limited system already in place but it has a low flow rate.(belt driven pump and small lines). My question to everyone is what would be the best way to rig up a hydraulic pump? ???  It has a chrysler flathead six industrial engine with a three speed transmission. I have a 20ton tulsa winch out of a wrecker that I want to hang off the back of it ,weld up a small arch and call it a cable skidder 8)I was thinking of bolting a flange and driveshaft on to the fanbelt pulley and mounting the hydraulic pump externally. Any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated. I will post some pics as soon as I figure out how.  thanks 




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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 03:17:37 pm »
Mount the hydraulic pump right to the front of the crankshaft..

Use a flexible coupler between the crank pulley and the pump shaft and you'll have plenty of hydraulic power.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 03:31:36 pm »
Thanks Jason,
Thats what I meant( crank pulley).By flexible coupler did you mean a u-joint?. What do suggest for a flange to attach it to the pully? Is there an easy way to make one?

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 03:50:52 pm »
a u-joint drive shaft would work - I was referring to a LoveJoy coupler

http://www.lovejoy-inc.com/content.aspx?id=206

I'd make a bolt on flange that uses the existing pulley bolt pattern so it would not affect anything you already have.

mount the pulley solid to something and run the drive shaft or coupler between them.. 

Sounds like fun..  I bet that thing goes good in the snow\mud

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2009, 07:56:17 pm »

 Are you sure the pump wont run the winch ???
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2009, 09:15:20 am »
welcome, vast knowledge here and great suport,your learn much here   :P

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 07:35:04 am »

 Are you sure the pump wont run the winch ???

The pump will turn the winch but very slow(like the second hand on a watch). If I remember correctly the hydraulic motor on the winch is 167cc/rev. Is there a way to get around this? as I dont think power will be an issue.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2009, 06:36:10 pm »
Hi
There's a guy around here who skids a lot with a machine like that. Nice winter machine. It should work well. Keep us posted
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2009, 11:06:55 pm »
Wish we had snow to use one, here's one near Cleveland Ohio. 

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2009, 08:00:54 pm »
Here is an update on the project.
I have acquired the steel that I need to make the winch mount from the scrapper and also picked up front portion of a ag-trailer to make the arch out of . The hydraulic pump was donated to me from my brother who used to use it to pump waste vegetable oil to run his truck. The flange is being fabricated now by a neighgbour who has a lathe.He was also kind enough to donate a controll valve that he had( it was no good to him as all of his farm equipment is John deere which works on a closed center and the valve is open center)  8). The only components that I am missing now is the reservoir and the hoses. The big assembly and fabrication should take place on the weekend of the 29th-30th. I will be sure to take lots of pics for everyones enjoyment. I will also try to make a movie of the rig in action to post on you-tube. As always I am open to suggestions and tips anyone wants to share.
 ;D ;D Its all starting to fall into place pc_smiley
 

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 09:22:47 pm »
 smiley_idea keep them coming 8)

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 06:19:37 pm »
My first skidding machine was a bombadier.  Not bad for pulling but not great for decking.  I never had a winch but fabbed a fairly tall arch and towed a length of 3/8 chain.  had some chokers made with a grab hook on the pulling end and just hooked them to the towed chain as close to the arch as possible.  Crude but relatively effective.  I went on to a small JD dozer with winch and arch, then a 440B skidder.  Bombadier was pretty cheap to run.  Good luck with your project!
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2009, 08:07:13 pm »
Here is another update with some pics(hopefully) :-\
Well the drive shaft hub for the pto is done and installed. I have also tried to cover up all of the yellow overspray with some black paint. I spoke with Brad at MN-outdoors and he has a couple of wheelbearing caps for me. i just need to figure out the shipping to Canada. Here are the pics to whet your appetites. The big build is next weekend 





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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2009, 07:53:26 am »
Well, This is how it turned out. All of the welding and fabrication were done on the weekend and I worked on the plumbing this week. Everything is ready to go as soon as I connect the love-joy and fill it with hydraulic oil 8). Oh ya and it needs some paint ::)










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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2009, 08:25:58 am »
Are you going to put on some front end weights to balance the load?

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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2009, 02:40:41 pm »
Counterweight? I thought "wheelies" in a tracked vehicle would be fun smiley_whip smiley_whip. I do have a fairly heavy power angle blade for the front--probably 3-4 hundred pounds. I will include a picture of the of the finished rig when I am done.

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2009, 09:11:13 pm »
Nice .... I'm thinking I would add a heavy steel plate guard to protect the winch and keep log ends and branches out of the space between the top and bottom horz. iron.

Logs will hang up and then let go and hit the back when draging them.

Looks like a fun rig.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2009, 05:36:20 am »
Nice looking job! You'll have to see how it pulls [winches] you may have to lower your winch point if it always pulls the front of the machine up.  Hilltops idea of a 'butt plate' is a good one, as you want to keep log ends off your backside.   When I built my 3 point hitch skidder, I made it sort of like an arch, where the log rides free to pivot, it makes turning the tractor easier, and saves bashing the machine with the log end.
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2009, 05:44:54 pm »
So .... how does it work ???

I finally found a tree big enough to use the winch on my J5 and it's great  8)
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2009, 12:21:35 pm »
It's nice to see someone else is building a tracked skidder.  These people are  right about you needing a butt plate (not butt plug though that may become a necessity if you live in hilly country  :D ) because tracks and wheels  become expensive real quick.  It can only take one log to do it to. 

I am building a tracked unit from scratch.  Project is on hold right now due to too much work and I am gathering up some parts.   Just got a rain day today and now doing some catching up with the forum.  ;D   Gotta feed my withdrawl symptoms if ya know what I mean.  :D

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2009, 10:18:41 am »
A few more pics of the skidder build. Everything is done now except for the Butt plate >:(. The blade that I made came from the scrapyard for a total of $30 in materials. I found an old 3pth scraper blade cut out some cheekplates,and welded some heavy angle iron onto the back to re enforce it.(5lbs of 6011 rods :D ).
A couple of questions for sprucebunny. 1) How big was the log that you tried out on your rig?
2) any problems skidding or any tips to make things go easier?
I still havn't had a chance to try it out yet( It looks too nice to wreck)
 










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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2009, 11:55:04 am »
That outfit is looking great. Real anxious for you to try it out on some logs, and let us know how it works.

Other than scratching the nice paint job, what is holding you back?   
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2009, 06:48:00 pm »
Looks good.

I don't have a good way to immobilize the machine to use the winch. Newer machines have a disc brake on the driveline. Best way to over come that is back up to a stump. Second best; move vehicle while winching.

Be very careful about 'side-loads' with that machine.... make sure the pull is as close as possible to directly rearward.
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2009, 07:45:23 pm »
I am not planning on "snow activity" w/ this one, but will be putting winches, roll bar, and front blade on it as well. Yours looks great, I have yet to decide if mine will be power angle. I may cut a 6' meyer snow plow in half so it's not too high. I may alos put a quick removing lower cutting edge that could have some teeth, as it is likely I will be scruffing some light underbrush at times.

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2009, 01:11:18 am »
Well I finally got a chance to try it out. I cut down a dead cherry tree about 16" at the bottom and tried winching it about 20 feet over to the machine. It worked great for the first 15 feet and then the winch stopped!!! smiley_furious thats when I noticed a pool of oil under the machine(about 5 gals worth). Well here is what happened. When I was hooking the hydraulic pump up I had to switch the lines (intake and output)around for it to work. I thought that it was just a matter of clockwise vs counter clockwise. Well I was wrong smiley_dunce smiley_dunce. This all worked fine in the garage, but as soon as I put a load on the system it immediatly puked the mechanical seal on the pump. Three hours later I had the pump in my hand and I was off to a local hydraulics shop to find out what happened. Well the guy there wanted $75 just to look at the pump to tell me if it could be changed around internally. I was not too keen on that--there are 4 bolts on the pump body and a total of about 6 internal parts-- to give someone 75 bucks for three minutes work is way out of my budget. So to make a long story even longer I took it apart myself switched the internal seals around and rotated the pump body 180 so the suction line was the 1" opening and the output was 3/4". Stuffed it back in the machine, filled the reservoir back up and it worked fine  ;D. I dragged a little ford 1500 tractor, with the bucket all the way down front wheels in the air, across the yard. So I'm back in action and will try to post some pics of the rig at work. 

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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2009, 04:53:45 am »
Glad to hear you could fix the pump yourself.  I am looking forward to the pictures.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2009, 11:06:39 am »
So .... how does it work ???

I finally found a tree big enough to use the winch on my J5 and it's great  8)

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Did we get a pic or two of that?

How have your woods roads and trails fared through the summer? Last I heard you were doing a lot of work on them and prolly spent a good time out there this summer.
Any update?

Glad to hear about Sliver's success and back in business. Hope to see those pics soon too.
Prolly found plenty of places for that $75 you saved. ::) ::) ::)

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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2009, 05:40:32 pm »
Hello everyone.
Its been a while since I last I my post(my computer died and I just got a new one). I went out yesterday to try out the skidder on some trees. I was out buzzing through the fields making sure everything was ready to work and the engine quit >:(. I dragged it back to the garage with the tractor and found out that it wasn't getting any fuel. traced back through the system and found the intake pipe in the fuel tank was plugged with a little knob of silicone(nearest I can figure it was from where the screws on the fuel sender go into the tank). put it all back together and it ran like a charm. Good thing too, cause when I was leaving the farm a kid had put his truck in the ditch at the end of the road. Being the good guy that I am I turned around to go find him and slid off the road myself  smiley_dunce(glare ice under about 2"wet snow). The skidder plucked my little rav4 out like it was nothing. The young kid's truck was a little different. It was in deep(he missed a corner) and all tht was sticking out was the back end. It took a couple of tugs but I was able to drag a full size dodge (left in park with the doors locked) up out of the ditch onto the road. 8) 8). I promise my next post will be a lot less words and a lot more pictures of me skidding logs :)

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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2009, 04:42:41 pm »
Ok I am still waiting for an update on this machine of yours Sliver !   :P I know where there a re a couple of these things , so if your's works well I may just build one for my self . 8)

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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2010, 07:30:45 pm »
Still waiting , tap tap tap !  :D

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« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2010, 09:48:35 pm »
Hey Motohed,
Glad to see you are interested smiley_thumbsup. I have been busy with work and the holidays. I am going to take er out for a rip tomorrow and should have some pics and a play by play for you around this time tomorrow night. I will probably start out with a few small ones(fill all 4chokers?? smiley_bull_stomp)  and if that goes well hopefully try it out on something a little bigger around 24".  I do all my skidding tree length and bust it all up on the landing in the spring.

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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2010, 04:11:19 pm »
We all will be waiting !  ;D

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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2010, 09:53:57 pm »
well I went cutting today for a few hours while my son was at school. Man does this thing pull hard :o. I ripped a 14"ironwood out(already laying down) that had frozen into the ground, and pulled out a nice size beech treelength. A coupla maples and an ash just to round things out. I made the little pile of wood in the pics in about three hours. Going down the trails in second gear with or without a load on(about as fast as a brisk jog). Third gear is just too fast and bouncy smiley_bouncing_pinky smiley_bounce smiley_deadheader alligator.About the only issue I had was when I first started I thought I should pull from a lower hitch point(you can see it in the pics. I found that it was better to just pull with the top pulley as it made the front end light and much easier to steer. All in all a great improvement over the ford 1500 4x4 tractor that I was using--not as nimble in the woods, but way more grunt and terrain capability. Motohed if you have any specific questions let me know enjoy the pics ;)






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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2010, 11:37:36 am »
Glad to see the unit in action. Like anything you have to make minor changes to get things to work the way you want them to.  That setup you have there would be perfect around here.

How does your blade system work..... Have you tried decking logs with it yet? pushing snow?...... we need the low down here.... ;D

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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2010, 12:48:12 pm »
Hey Brad. The little blade that is on it in the pictures is one that I made for it specifically for pushing the logs up into the pile. So far it works good. It moved the whole pile back each time I plowed into it. If you look at some of the earlier posts you can see that it is a 4way? plow-- pressure up down and side to side. I do have the original plow that was on it, it is five feet wide and about three feet hight and made heavy enough that you could bulldoze with it ;D. All in all I am pretty happy with the performance and just need to get used to the handling characteristics of a tracked vehicle. What else could you use to skid trees out of the woods for a total investment of about 2k.(+time ::))

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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2010, 01:55:35 pm »
neat rig i have followed this thread as it went along and i have had some concerns about the stability of the machine. it seems very narrow in the pictures and pulling from the top pullley looks like it could easily have enough leverage to tip it over. i know "line up straight with the wood" but we all have corners in our roads and if a tree fetches up, odd things happen.
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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2010, 02:18:52 pm »
Good job , Sliver ! I will be following your progress .

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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2010, 06:22:44 pm »
Glad to see you got it working!

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« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2010, 09:02:18 am »
Siver, I have enjoyed following this thread.  I have looked at a few SW plows but were told by a local that they are not great in the bush, made for concrete sidewalks.  I realize they would work best on packed down trails but how do they do pulling a log up a snow coverd hill?  There is no flat land where I live. I have a very small 4x4 tractor with a norse winch that struggles on the snow covered paths even with chains.   Is the SW plow a large improvement over your small tractor?  Have you had a chance to take it into some deep snow, say 2ft.  There is one for sale locally for $4500 bucks, in very good condition.  Seems like a lot seeing what you paid for yours. 

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« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2010, 09:26:04 am »
Copes.
The situation you are describing sounds just like what I was facing the last couple of years I looked for a long time to find the one I got. There seems to be few around for 3-4500.  I think that 2k is a fair price for one that is in working order(not pretty but mechanically sound).  As i have just put this thing together this year I haven't really tested the limits of what it can do yet. the hills on my property are not really that steep but when the snow was deep (2ft+) the little tractor would barely make it up the hills even with no load. I had to go up and down a few times just to be able to haul the logs. what a pain. You already have the norse winch! and the machines are only WORTH what someone will pay for them.  As for deep snow-- drop the blade thats what they were originally meant for. I would think(also hoping) once the trail is packed you could maintain it like your own wilderness sidewalk. :D

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2010, 02:40:48 pm »
I recently saw one in the Truck Trader locally here in SW Pa. about the same $4300-4500.

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« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2010, 11:10:53 am »
Well, I spoke to a fellow selling a SW plow yesterday.  He pretty much talked me out of it for using in the bush.  He said the clearance is 6 inches and gets stuck very easily whether it be snow or mud.  I may have to go up and try it out for myself, the problem is, he is an hour and half away.   They look like they would be capable but perhaps getting a much bigger tractor and chains would be the answer.  I'll have to be patient and continue to learn from your experiences.  If he was willing to let it go for a couple thousand I would take the chance but not for 4500.  I look forward to your updates Silver.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2010, 12:10:04 pm »
The problem isn't the clearance as much as the pounds per square inch (psi)

The SW48 and J5 ( which is 60-64" wide and has 16" wide tracks) both weigh around 5000 pounds which means that in all but the hardest snow, they will sink like a rock and be dragging the belly pan. Your skid trails need to be packed after every storm.

A tractor will have the same problem when unpacked snow gets to be 2-3 feet deep.

Then there is the weight equals traction part : a machine with less psi will lose it's grip sooner on a hill when pulling a load.

There is also a great variability in snow it's self !!

I think SW48s and SW54s are too narrow/tippy to use for skidding. Minimum for me would be a J5 with the winch set low.

I realize that the bigger machines cost more and an SW might seem like a good way to start. Please consider getting a J5 instead which was designed to be a multi-season and multi-surface workhorse. It has wider tracks.


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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2010, 12:52:49 pm »
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The pic is the J5?

Looks like fun.  :)
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« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2010, 02:30:34 pm »
BT the pic is a Muskeg. Dual wheels/sprockets in each track. Same parts: differential, wheels etc as SW and J5
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2010, 07:09:52 pm »
When we bought a J5 in the '70s,the seller recommended driving, unloaded, over fresh snow the day before you wanted to skid.
I would recommend inspecting the crosslinks on the tracks very carefully.Any one that is worn enough to be cracked from side to side,needs to be changed
If you break one or two it isn't a big deal,but I broke about 15 in a row just into a mudhole and the track belts/broken crosslinks pulled down on either side of the back tire.The newly slacken track also allowed the rubber drive sprocket to spin against the track, peeling off a couple of the teeth.
I couldn't move the thing and so spent two weekends groping around in swamp goo.
Fixing it was a pretty good accomplishment for a 14 yr.old.

On ours,a very thin-walled 3/4" socket was required to get at the crosslink nuts.I still have it.
One machine that I saw had 12" pieces of 1 1/2"x1 1/2" angle bolted between the crosslinks and the trackbelts with about 8" sticking out to the outside,I assume for extra flotation.

We did get it high-centred a few times on stumps,but the snowplow cylinder could be used to push,pull or lift it.
BTW,it was far better in snow and slop than the 8n and the Kubota 245dt 4x4 loader tractor that I used later.
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2010, 07:40:24 pm »
 Sprucebunny  you have a nice set up could you tell me who makes the log trailer you have and how does it handle I have been looking at one from Anderson thanks.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2010, 07:54:21 pm »
Firefighter, It is a Majaco; now called Anderson, 140 = 14' reach.

I haven't made very many trips yet. The tires sink into mud that you can't even see that the Muskeg went over.

The combination of the two machines seems very good, so far. The trailer backs well and follows well.

Yes, packing the snow in advance and after every storm makes a big difference. I'll tell you more in Febuary  ;D
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #48 on: January 12, 2010, 05:21:24 am »
Neat set up. How long before there are tracks over the trailer tires? How many HP are the Muskeg's? Gas or diesel?

 I looked up the SW in the truck trader I was wrong, it is $6900, "one owner" likely a local muncipality, and is offered by a truck dealer in the Cleveland Ohio area. He also has what looks like local county/ city plow trucks for sale. Anyone interested can PM me, it looks like this one, including the V plow. 





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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2010, 09:12:09 am »
CL in Maine has a 1967 Bombardier SW67 for $1500.  It's got a pic looks like it needs some TLC or a rebuild, posting was late Dec.

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« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2010, 12:29:20 pm »
Matt what is CL in Maine?  How does one fine the pictures and more info?

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« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2010, 12:47:21 pm »
I think he means CraigsList, Tim .

Ironwood, This machine has a Chrysler Industrial 318 (5.2L) I don't know the HP.
Ya, tracks for the loader would be cool but probably won't happen soon.
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2010, 02:38:17 pm »
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« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2010, 09:21:19 pm »
Nice find Ironwood. I like the "bush bars" on it ;). I was out on tuesday cutting and managed to drag out another half dozen trees 8) I know its not much but the little skidder worked great no probs so I didn't work too hard and just enjoyed the day. sorry all, I got some pics but forgot the camera in the skidder ::). The biggest one was about 18" hard maple with not much taper. I cut it into three peices and dragged it out all in one shot. This tree would have been two maybe three trips with the little tractor so I am really happy with the improvement. I know there are some concerns out there about the rig being tippy, but as with all machinery there are limits--so if in doubt I use the winch. Had about 50 feet out for one tree and only used about 1/4 of the spool. well thats all for now I will post the pics when I get them

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« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2010, 09:29:39 pm »
Oh Ya Copes,
where are you at? I'm Just north of Kingston Ontario and offer free test drives. They are six hours each and bring your saw! :D :D

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2010, 08:54:44 am »
Thanks for posting the link Ironwood, I'm not that computer savy.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2010, 01:00:30 pm »
Good luck Matt, if we got more snow I would be headed up there to get it. Neat machines.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2010, 11:03:23 am »
I know everyone likes pics. so here are the ones from last tuesday. The first one shows the terrrain( not much but would wrap up a tractor). the next 3 are of the knock em down drag em out operation ;D








The tree in the pic is one of the smaller ones maybe 16" at the butt. It is taking me about half the time of when I was using the tractor. 8)

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2010, 01:34:50 pm »
Thanks for posting the pics Silver.  My little tractor would never have been able to pull through that.  I have found a couple muskegs for sale but have settled on an old Alpine snowmobile for now.  They are suppose to be pretty hardy machines, no where near the pulling capacity the SW.  I will have to float any logs I cut out on skiis I would think.

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2010, 02:52:17 pm »
Copes I think a skidding arch on skis would be what you need.  I will go out and takes some pics of mine.  I still got some welding to do on it this week to finish it up and put it to work.
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« Reply #60 on: January 16, 2010, 04:18:47 pm »
copes,  Is that the one with twin tracks? If it is I used one of them for a few years, and you will be pleasantly surprised by how much they will pull. Not really big loads but they will travel back and forth to the yarding area relatively quickly. We need Pictures smiley_smash. good luck

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« Reply #61 on: January 16, 2010, 06:28:42 pm »
Thanks for the pictures, Sliver !!

I'm glad it's working so well for you  8)
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« Reply #62 on: January 17, 2010, 08:11:08 am »
Nice Silver.Like the bright new paint on the slides and chokers.Might want to paint the chains up this summer to find them easier on the ground.I'm cutting in a bog now.Tried to get to it all summer and fall,but the rain kept it full.I'm in there now getting my feet wet.Looks like I'm walking on snow,but then down I go into a hole.Try to get one foot out and the other goes down.Dropped a chain down one of those holes the other day.Half way up my arm the water was to find it.Just fire wood.I'm really just getting the dead stuff.It died out about 3 years ago.Not much grows there of any value,due to it being wet all the time.That Bombardier I could use in the bog.I have to stay on hard ground and pull the cable to the trees.
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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2010, 10:40:36 pm »
 Now granted my minni skidder is not as classy as your set up but it is amazeing what this critter will pull
 

   
 


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« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2010, 11:26:15 pm »
I see where the mud comes from, that you mentioned earlier.

Enjoying the pics you are posting.
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« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2010, 10:43:20 am »
 heey Cptn Crunch is that an IH 6,9,or 14 in the background?

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« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2010, 10:30:09 pm »
captain_crunch,
that trackster is not only classy its a convertable too :D :D
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« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2010, 01:49:46 am »
Was in middle of replying last nite untill wind blew out lights(wind got power line)
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« Reply #68 on: March 10, 2010, 02:24:56 pm »
i'm in meaford ontario have two muskegs one tractor and one carrier the carrier is rough but the tractor i use 3 times a week i love this machine even if i don't pack the snow it usually floats over whatever loaded or not

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« Reply #69 on: March 10, 2010, 02:28:24 pm »
what is the best pump for a winch would you go pto or something belted

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« Reply #70 on: March 10, 2010, 10:10:15 pm »
Pto would be better than belt but either needs to be live off engine so you have winch power anytine engine is running
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« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2010, 11:59:10 am »
thanks captain there is a bomber dealer we buy our snow cats from down the rd going to see how much an oem one is for a laugh

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Re: Making a Bombardier log skidder
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2010, 09:18:55 am »
I just found a Bombadier that is going to be sold at auction on March 27 2010. It has a V blade and is powered by a Chry 6 cyl , has rubber tracks. It is being sold at the whitly Co. fair grounds in Columbia City, In Auctioneer"s ph 260-723-4378
 I thought I would post this if anybody is interested. Have fun bidding.

 

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