Thanks Rocky,changed back to a 7 pin and alls well with the world,big differance,cuts like it should.My own opinion but I think too much chain speed tends to dull a chain quicker,more apt to take small chips.When i started alot of the saws were the old gear reduction type,slow, large chain,that seemed to stay sharp longer,of course we didn't cut as much per hour.Probibly a large saw with a short bar for firewood could benifit from an 8 pin sprocket but thats kinda like a pickup bed on a Peterbuilt.Frank C.