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Wherezit???
« on: April 13, 2009, 03:08:25 pm »
We've had a lot of whatzit games on here where someone posted pictures on an unidentified plant and we guessed what they were.  I travelled to two of the finest old growth forests in the eastern U.S. in the past week, so in this edition, I'll tell you what the trees are and you have to guess where they are.  Good luck :)

This site contained many old loblolly pines that were easily accessible.  I need to get back there with a kayak to really explore the place...




The second site was full of yellow-poplars that exceeded any expectations I could have had for the place.  It used to hold a bounty of old hemlocks as well, but they've been mostly skeletonized by the HWAs.  A few living ones survived here and there.














OK, I couldn't let you out of here without identifying at least one tree.  Here's a big, burled whatzit from site #2:


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Re: Wherezit???
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2009, 06:00:43 pm »
Well got no idea on the place on a map. But I'm guessing a hard pine, like slash pine, for the burled tree.

Some pretty impressive trees there. Your quite the acrobat to. :D

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2009, 06:25:01 pm »
By enhancing the photo and looking at the other local flora and fauna, I'd have to take a wild stab and say that the Loblolly could be in the Congaree National Park.

The big yellow Poplars, by looking at the bark patterns, sun and shadow positions in the photo, and knowing about the time of year by the growth height of the foreground vegetation (Red Trillium I believe), gives me a Lat lon guess, which could put you no where else other then the Joyce Kilmer memorial Forest.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2009, 06:30:32 pm »
I'm going to be pretty amazed if that's where it is.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2009, 06:32:06 pm »
 :D :D

How many hairs on a hind leg of a flea Jeff? ;)

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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2009, 06:45:32 pm »
I would need to know if it was one of yours or one of your kitty cat's to help narrow down the 2000 species of fleas.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 06:56:02 pm »
Good work Jeff, you the man. That's the exact two trees on the memorial website. ;D

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 07:04:48 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2009, 07:11:40 pm »
Sure a good candidate with the burls on the base and the one the guy has his hand on.

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Re: Wherezit???
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2009, 10:05:52 pm »
I am with Jeff on the locations.  Is the burl tree a big ole virginia pine  ???.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2009, 10:27:49 pm »
That was my second "ponderance" WDH, but I have never seen really big Virgina Pine. The bark sure reminds me of old jack pine bark though, which is similar to Virginian.

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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2009, 11:04:55 pm »
It might be pitch pine  :)
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2009, 04:48:29 am »
Nice trees.But what I don't understand,is where are the other big ones?I see one great big tree,but no others that even come close to that size.I am comparing it to the woods in my area.
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Re: Wherezit???
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2009, 09:28:06 am »
Jeff is right on both counts.  Impressive photo-enhancing abilities :D :D.  Both of the pines (loblolly) are at Congaree Swamp National Park, just outside Colombia, SC.  The yellow-poplars are at Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest near Robbinsville, NC.  I would strongly encourage you to visit both places if you are ever near them (or even if you aren't near them...)

WDH: you are in the wrong division with your guesses for the burled tree.  It is not a gymnosperm :)  Here's another picture that probably won't help:

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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2009, 09:36:45 am »
Jeff is right on both counts.  Impressive photo-enhancing abilities :D :D.  Both of the pines (loblolly) are at Congaree Swamp National Park, just outside Colombia, SC.  The yellow-poplars are at Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest near Robbinsville, NC.  I would strongly encourage you to visit both places if you are ever near them (or even if you aren't near them...)

WDH: you are in the wrong division with your guesses for the burled tree.  It is not a gymnosperm :)  Here's another picture that probably won't help:

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Unbelievable! ;D

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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2009, 10:23:44 am »
Sure looks like pine bark and burl to me.  In fact if it were jack, I'd blame it on sweet fern blister rust. :D :D

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2009, 06:42:14 pm »
My first thought was elm, but I did not go with it.  Probably not an elm.  My other impression is silver bell, Halesia, but I not ever seen one nearly that big :).
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2009, 11:41:36 pm »
Dodgy, the old tree book I showed you a few weeks ago claims that yellow poplar can reach 12ft in diameter.  I wonder if that is really true.  I guess if they are not logged for 200 years...    I have several yellow poplars that have really good form and are already 3ft in diameter.  I would love to see what they look like in another 50 years.

(Casie seems to be enjoying herself)

Got several of the walnuts potted in 30" deep Treepots - and planted another.  All but one are budding out nicely.  I also gave a few of them away.  Got half of the butternuts in germination bins (sealed to keep the marauding squirrels out), but none of them have popped yet.

You will have to post some pictures of the persimmon orchard.   :)

I also hope the shumard acorns have found good homes.

Oh, nice poses too.  The first one looks like the FTD Florist man.    :D


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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2009, 04:45:47 pm »
WDH - You got it with your last guess.  It is a Carolina silverbell (Halesia carolina).  It's one of the largest I've ever seen, but I was really impressed by the proliferation of burls on the trunk.  The wood turner in me was envisioning the georgeous bowls that I could make, but the conservationist in me was slapping the wood turner.  I felt torn :D :D :D

LL - I've started to plant out some of the trees you gave me, but I'm saving most of them to plant at my dad's house.  I'll be down there this weekend.  I might not be living in my house in another 5 years, but he probably will be...  I put quite a few of the shumard acorns in the ground at my house, but I may be doing a better job of feeding the squirrels than growing trees ::).  I gave two bags the the fellow with all the sawtooths so hopefully he'll have better luck than I am.  The rest will be divied up at my dad and grandad's places.

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