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Offline moonhill

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The future
« on: April 07, 2009, 07:01:16 am »
Could this be a peek at the future?  Back this winter I had the chance to test a segway while at Epcot in Disney World, it was a short ride and it comes with a learning curve.  It may not only be part of our future but GM's inevitable reconstructing. 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090407/ap_on_bi_ge/general_motors_segway

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Re: The future
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2009, 10:01:40 pm »
I only caught bits of Rush's show today, but as usual on such an item, he shot it down.  I think it can have a place. 

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Re: The future
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2009, 10:39:13 pm »
They have a major problem--people---. Users tend to ignore the low battery warnings. When the batteries run down, you get dumped on your keister.
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Re: The future
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2009, 08:09:31 am »
I took the short trip on the Segue at Epcot, as well. If I lived in NYC or the like, I would have one.


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Piney, sometimes the best lessons you learn in life are learned the hard way. :D  We learn to fill the gas tank when the little light flashes, recharging the battery shouldn't be too much different.  The battery life is 12hrs, i believe.
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Re: The future
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2009, 08:14:16 am »
Too bad Segways are illegal in NYC.

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Re: The future
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2009, 09:19:06 am »
Largo Police use them here for "hood" patrol. There's a dealership just up the road in clearwater.
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Re: The future
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 09:53:37 pm »
Glenn Beck even mentioned this today on his show, it's as if they (talk radio) are being fed some info and are requested to make comments on some items.  Glenn is a big supporter of GM, and his comments were somewhat disapproving.

As for the segway running out of power and dumping the rider, I'm under the impression it would shut down before it would malfunction.  Once accustom  to it's actions it is quite maneuverable.  A larger battery in the Puma would be an improvement, I could then make it to town and back on one charge.

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Re: The future
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2009, 10:58:28 pm »
I have not yet seen one navigate a snow drift - not even a small one.

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Re: The future
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 06:56:09 am »
It doesn't look like its much more than a fair weather type of transport.  I have never seen a Segway used anywhere.  It was supposed to revolutionize the way we get around.  It hasn't.

Basically, this is like an electric rickshaw.  How big of a market is there for rickshaws? 
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Re: The future
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 07:18:10 am »
Sprucegum, that is because you live in the wrong climate.  Here is a link to a future city in the great state of Florida. The Segway can be use year round with no snow or ice issues.  They do make a version with ATV tires on it, the narrow type found on the front, I bet it would maneuver through some snow, this would cut it travel distance down, it shouldn't be a problem in Florida or any where in warmer weather. They make a 4 wheel version as well, it goes up stairs, I imagine it would work well with a handicapped driver, allowing access to more locations.  

Here is the link, a solar powered city, self contained.  I wonder if it will be in the shape of a circle?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090409/us_time/08599189030800

This topic does not have to focus on the Puma, and what is up with the skepticism?  Let's use some imagination, dream a little, the future is coming and what does it look like?  Are you ready for it. Without innovation and trial we will not advance.  There is technology out there and it is not being use.

Ron, that is because you are looking at how our cities are set up today.  How often do you or any of us travel for silly reasons, milk, that one bolt and nut you don't have, 5 gallons of gas, to take the youngster to ball practice any number of reasons you don't need a 7 passenger mini van.  It may even travel on auto pilot, you could read a book or take in the scenery. 

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Re: The future
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 07:24:14 am »
Segway log hauller has tracks insted of wheels.Frank C.
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Re: The future
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2009, 09:54:10 am »

Ron, that is because you are looking at how our cities are set up today.  How often do you or any of us travel for silly reasons, milk, that one bolt and nut you don't have, 5 gallons of gas, to take the youngster to ball practice any number of reasons you don't need a 7 passenger mini van.  It may even travel on auto pilot, you could read a book or take in the scenery. 

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Now you're talking lifestyle changes.  I've pretty much done those on a personal level.  If I need that nut or bolt, it can wait until I go out the next time.  Same goes for gas, milk or anything else.  And I don't have a 7 passenger van.  Everything is compact.  But, I know you weren't talking to me directly.

I've often wondered why we don't have a second level on our streets where we could run some sort of an electric transit system.  My vision would be to have something similar to the third rail type of train system.  You could even go with a maglev type system.

Make the vehicles small so they can hold only a few people, or a few parcels.  Punch in a few coordinates to where you want to be sent, and let the computer do the rest.  No driver needed, and the computer could keep safe distances between vehicles.  Speeds would be faster.  Batteries wouldn't be needed since you're running off the grid.  Smaller vehicles would mean a lighter framework and easier construction of the highways. 

The problem with mass transit is that it is designed to move a lot of people, but it goes to very few points.  Cars allow us to move small amounts of people and parcels to many points.  A second level would allow us to move lots of small cargoes long distances and utilize the current right of way system.

Is that the kind of imagination you're talking about?
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2009, 11:07:09 am »
Continuing Ron's thoughts (at least for me  :) ), set up a tube system of climbing into a personal tube, program the destination and get zipped off with a blast of air. Just like the systems in old department stores and now at Bank drive-ups.

Air travel could be similar..settle down in a room at the terminal, get in a coffin-like tube, take a whiff of gas to go to sleep, and wake up at the destination airport. Airline can handle your tube like baggage (?? now that is a potential flaw  :) ), and stack many more people into a plane like cordwood and wait until the planes are full before flying.  No fuss, no muss, no waiting, stewing, or fantisizing about dropping out of the sky. Be asleep the whole time.

Programmed life. Won't that be a blast.  Kinda like starring at a TV set, or a computer.  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: The future
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2009, 06:50:17 pm »
Really know way of telling what the future holds,only know it will be differant.I'am glad I was born when I was.Youth is cock sure the old folks were doing it wrong,but people meant more to each outher.Have you noticed their are few characters anymore everyone is more or less the same,fit the mold and politcally correct.Frank C.
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Re: The future
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2009, 07:08:03 pm »
There's no shortage of young "characters" in my neighbourhood.There are some industrious young fellows for sure.There are slackers too of course but there always was.
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Re: The future
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2009, 08:23:11 pm »
There you go Ron, that almost sounds like Disney World with the delivery system below in a lower level, unbeknownst to the mob above.  I like the air tube transporter. 

I always wondered what high paid sports player did with their money, investing in a solar powered city is one way. 

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Re: The future
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2009, 11:01:01 pm »
I've often wondered why we don't have a second level on our streets where we could run some sort of an electric transit system.  My vision would be to have something similar to the third rail type of train system. 

They already have that in some places, but for some reason they named it after a chain of sandwich shops. ???
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Re: The future
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2009, 12:01:22 am »
Beenthere, you been watching Star Track reruns again?
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Re: The future
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2009, 07:26:02 am »
I have heard that the cell phone was designed, in part, from the communicator, we have moved beyond that now with blue tooth and the ear piece.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/bluetooth-star-trek-communicator-025437.php

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Re: The future
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2009, 08:57:55 am »
DanG, that's not quite what I'm talking about.  I assume you mean Subway and not Blimpie's. 

When I think of a subway, they dig a tunnel, then fill it with a train track, water, rats and the homeless.   :D
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