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So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« on: March 24, 2009, 11:21:50 am »
Well what about these sized trees your looking at, 4-8 inches. Think of a guy with brush cutting gear on and he's looking at the bottom 2 meters of the tree trunks. Now tell me what I'm leaving as crop trees when I see these trunks on my thinning site. Remember the lower limbs are gone and the summer leaves start 4 meters up. So what we got? ;D



















Now you bark wiezenhiemers, what we got? :D
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 01:28:45 pm »
All I know is those leaves in the last picture look like beech.

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The trees look like they could be beech, but probably are not.  That would be too easy....
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 01:33:39 pm »
Some species of Populus maybe? ???
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 01:59:59 pm »
Lanier, on # 5 your right, it isn't. Leaves yes, but the stems with white spots is the target. The stand was previous thinned with brush saws. ;D

Dodgy, which one you guessing on? ;)
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 02:03:22 pm »
These are all natives, no tricks.... well native at least. ;D
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 02:28:36 pm »
I gotta see the form of the tree or the ends of the logs to decide. And I'll bet you looked up too, before you could tell. Or looked at the leaves on the ground under the snow, and not those needles in that one picture you left to confuse.   ;D
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 02:48:52 pm »
A ha! So you agree it's not so easy. :D However, give me a bud of a commercial native New Brunswick hardwood tree and I'll never fail. ;)
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 04:00:16 pm »
first one looks like hackberry
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 04:03:44 pm »
second from last.
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2009, 04:41:19 pm »
Quote from: Texas Ranger on March 24, 2009, 04:00:16 pm
first one looks like hackberry

Nope, wrong family. I'll say though, that this tree species stays smooth. ;)

Quote from: Dodgy Loner on March 24, 2009, 04:03:44 pm
second from last.

Nope, wrong family to. Kinda related to blueberry, but grow about 30 feet sometimes around here. Not a commercial tree, but who said they had to be trees? Even in thinning if you have a small hole with no commercials, you have to leave something. ;)
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 05:28:39 pm »
Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 24, 2009, 02:48:52 pm
A ha! So you agree it's not so easy. :D However, give me a bud of a commercial native New Brunswick hardwood tree and I'll never fail. ;)

And don't pick them off the twigs or their scales off like some idiotic professor did to us.  ::)
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2009, 11:25:32 pm »
I thought I saw an alder  :o
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 05:42:58 am »
Not here. ;D
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2009, 05:51:00 am »
Ok, I'll have to give you one tree, it's number 5. It's actually a tall shrub, a member of the serviceberry genus, Amalanchier. If there is nothing to leave in a  hole but a non commercial, I would rather leave a shrub that bears fleshy fruit. In most instances a pin cherry can be left, but many times we have to leave a willow. At least moose calves will benefit from willow. And if you ever walked ground with willow shrubs in moose country, there is hardly a willow that hasn't been topped by a moose. ;D

The rest are all real trees, I swear it. ;D
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2009, 06:08:49 am »
Maybe sumac ???
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2009, 06:12:24 am »
You mean number 5? serviceberry. There's a lot of species of serviceberry and we never attempted to separate the species in college.
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2009, 07:11:57 am »
Ooops meant number 5, can't add too good today.  :-\
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2009, 03:45:22 pm »
Do I detect Witch Hazel?  They're all fairly similar.  One might be a Horsechestnut, but I'm not convinced...
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2009, 03:55:18 pm »
None of the above. I gave away the ID of the only shrub in the pictures, that of number 5. The rest are all timber growing trees. ;D

The trees that remain are from 4 distinct genus. The last one prefers cooler climate and in the south likes higher elevations more. Probably a smaller range over all than the rest, or almost equivalent to # 4. ;)
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Re: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh?
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2009, 04:51:44 pm »
i would have to say soft maple.
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