Author Topic: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh? (Read 1750 times)

SwampDonkey · « **on:** March 24, 2009, 11:21:50 am »

Well what about these sized trees your looking at, 4-8 inches. Think of a guy with brush cutting gear on and he's looking at the bottom 2 meters of the tree trunks. Now tell me what I'm leaving as crop trees when I see these trunks on my thinning site. Remember the lower limbs are gone and the summer leaves start 4 meters up. So what we got?

Now you bark wiezenhiemers, what we got?

Lanier_Lurker · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:28:45 pm »

All I know is those leaves in the last picture look like beech.

The trees look like they could be beech, but probably are not. That would be too easy....

Dodgy Loner · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:33:39 pm »

Some species of Populus maybe?

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:59:59 pm »

Lanier, on # 5 your right, it isn't. Leaves yes, but the stems with white spots is the target. The stand was previous thinned with brush saws.

Dodgy, which one you guessing on?

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:03:22 pm »

These are all natives, no tricks.... well native at least.

Gary_C · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:28:36 pm »

I gotta see the form of the tree or the ends of the logs to decide. And I'll bet you looked up too, before you could tell. Or looked at the leaves on the ground under the snow, and not those needles in that one picture you left to confuse.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:48:52 pm »

A ha! So you agree it's not so easy.

However, give me a bud of a commercial native New Brunswick hardwood tree and I'll never fail.

Texas Ranger · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:00:16 pm »

first one looks like hackberry

Dodgy Loner · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:03:44 pm »

second from last.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:41:19 pm »

Quote from: Texas Ranger on March 24, 2009, 04:00:16 pm

first one looks like hackberry

Nope, wrong family. I'll say though, that this tree species stays smooth.

Quote from: Dodgy Loner on March 24, 2009, 04:03:44 pm

second from last.

Nope, wrong family to. Kinda related to blueberry, but grow about 30 feet sometimes around here. Not a commercial tree, but who said they had to be trees? Even in thinning if you have a small hole with no commercials, you have to leave something.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:28:39 pm »

Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 24, 2009, 02:48:52 pm

A ha! So you agree it's not so easy. However, give me a bud of a commercial native New Brunswick hardwood tree and I'll never fail.

And don't pick them off the twigs or their scales off like some idiotic professor did to us.

Sprucegum · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2009, 11:25:32 pm »

I thought I saw an alder

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2009, 05:42:58 am »

Not here.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2009, 05:51:00 am »

Ok, I'll have to give you one tree, it's number 5. It's actually a tall shrub, a member of the serviceberry genus, Amalanchier. If there is nothing to leave in a hole but a non commercial, I would rather leave a shrub that bears fleshy fruit. In most instances a pin cherry can be left, but many times we have to leave a willow. At least moose calves will benefit from willow. And if you ever walked ground with willow shrubs in moose country, there is hardly a willow that hasn't been topped by a moose.

The rest are all real trees, I swear it.

Ironmower · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:08:49 am »

Maybe sumac

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:12:24 am »

You mean number 5? serviceberry. There's a lot of species of serviceberry and we never attempted to separate the species in college.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2009, 07:11:57 am »

Ooops meant number 5, can't add too good today. $:-\$

CounselorJ · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2009, 03:45:22 pm »

Do I detect Witch Hazel? They're all fairly similar. One might be a Horsechestnut, but I'm not convinced...

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2009, 03:55:18 pm »

None of the above. I gave away the ID of the only shrub in the pictures, that of number 5. The rest are all timber growing trees.

The trees that remain are from 4 distinct genus. The last one prefers cooler climate and in the south likes higher elevations more. Probably a smaller range over all than the rest, or almost equivalent to # 4.

vtbuckslayer · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2009, 04:51:44 pm »

i would have to say soft maple.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2009, 04:54:54 pm »

Any particular photo? And if so, what species?

Gary_C · « **Reply #21 on:** March 25, 2009, 05:23:17 pm »

I'd guess the rest of them are Maples, mostly reds, but it's still just a guess till you cut one down and/or show the rest of the tree. Could be a Beech or Aspen too, can't tell with the poor lighting in the pictures.

WDH · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:21:43 pm »

The first one looks like a redbud. Y'all got Cercis up there?

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #23 on:** March 26, 2009, 05:12:25 am »

Gary_C the species you've chosen are correct, but 2 more to go. Any guess to which tree photo goes with which name?

WDH, no redbud up here. In Canada it's only found in the Deciduous Forest Region of southern Ontario. Also, of note it has been discovered in fossils in the Don River Valley near Toronto.

Dana · « **Reply #24 on:** March 26, 2009, 05:43:47 am »

Don't pick on me too bad.

1 beech 2 basswood 3 maple 4a nut tree maybe butternut the sap suckers have been busy 5 juneberry 6 maple

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #25 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:07:07 am »

Quote from: Dana on March 26, 2009, 05:43:47 am

Don't pick on me too bad.

Never

1. yes
2. no
3. yes (sugar maple)
4. no
5. ok

6. no

rocksnstumps · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:13:20 pm »

Ok, a few wild guesses
#2 Ash
#4 Taking a flyer on this one.....spruce
#6 Popple

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #27 on:** March 28, 2009, 04:52:56 am »

2. no
4. no
6. yes (bigtooth, largetooth aspen)

LeeB · « **Reply #28 on:** March 28, 2009, 03:03:40 pm »

I know, I know. #4 is a peckerwood tree.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #29 on:** March 28, 2009, 03:32:06 pm »

Yeah, to say the least.

#4 is Basswood and the sapsuckers sure love basswood around here.

rocksnstumps · « **Reply #30 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:27:32 pm »

So #2 is still up for grabs.....I'd go with box elder next but the maple family is already spoken for I see.
Seems to have some sort of horizontal look to the bark pattern so that in my mind eliminates oaks, hickories, and elms since the young ones I've seen can be somewhat smooth but still have hints of vertical lines. Not "birchy" looking enough....kinda left with cherry but that's pretty tentative

Maybe I can string out a few more names and you can just say Yep it's one of them

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #31 on:** March 29, 2009, 05:25:21 am »

Shotgun approach eh?

Well...drum roll.

#2 is red maple.

OneWithWood · « **Reply #32 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:20:41 am »

Yep, I agree, Swampdonkey has them correct

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Author Topic: So ya wanna ID by the bark eh? (Read 1750 times)