Stanley Meyer--Water Fuel Technology

[Fla._Deadheader]

 That's the "Control" thing I keep talking about, Norm. 

[Fla._Deadheader]

 Here is a piece written by a very well known experimenter, in Magnetics. He has developed several motors, "free" energy devices, and other things.

  It is written about how "THEY" have taken away things, pressured others, the latest being this "Mylow" person.

  Y'all don't have to believe any of it. I have seen some of the things, on video  , although that "Could" be clever editing. I will know, FOR SURE, very soon.

  Here is the piece.
 

I don't talk very much about different things. But I feel that I must say this
to you. Mylow should have started a group long ago and had all the skeptics goof
everything up like they did the SG, some times it's better to take that kick in
the pants and not say anything to anybody about your sad moments.

I know you have built magnetic motors which did not work, you claimed the SG did
not work but so what, as others did get it to work and are very happy. The
mistake with Mylow is he did not have any protection because he did not have
enough failures in the public groups like I did.

I now sit back and thank you for all the public attacking of my machine with
all the negative comments, people only half to look at that group to see the
bashing that has gone on with a simple invention.

As Mylow found out changing things only causes failure and it is reported that
way, that is protection and "THEY" do not come looking then.

If you remember their are DVD's on Howard Johnson, books and associated
articles. Anybody can make this work at a very limited level, no power and low
speed, a real true magnet motor has a speed of 5000 RPM's and "THEY" will take
that from you and you will never talk again about it.

Mylow's machine does prove over unity of >1 but you could not take any power
from that. What I see is that the only hope that people have at this time
because of mind blocks in physics is solar panels, wind machines, water power,
and combustion. We have not even got out of the dark ages in the way we think.
We are all brainwashed into thinking physics is just one way only, what a
mistake. What would happen if all the power systems would fail today what would
you do?

What is free energy since nothing is free out there, it cost for everything and
you must pay for it with phony money you work hard for.

Mylow is lucky as MIB's do not take things from you and then bring them back you
get two choices in life, MONEY or DEATH, this was not the secret people in black
taking things away because you never talk again about it, Mylow is now branded
as a quack, just like Howard Johnson. I did follow his progress and only to see
all the skeptics appear and try to build his vision of Howard Johnson's motor,
they changed it so now it does not work, that is next attack.

The magnets are very easy to make no big deal as regular horseshoe magnet work
the same, it's just a spacing difference but must be setup the same.

Just wait until the great Obama change takes effect, no money, no food, no
energy, just candles for light, if you can get them and many homeless walking
the streets. "NO ENERGY FOR YOU"

What Mylow saw as a wave was magnetic streams no electrons at all, since there
are none and no one has ever seen one, yes pure magnetic streams with all the
power of the universe at one's finger tips.
My heart goes out to Mylow and his family for his hard work but the mistake is
already made.

[rowerwet]

the issue with large NIMH batteries could be just as simple as the scale, cost and resources involved in producing these batteries, it doesn't have to be a conspiracy, especialy as noted in the wiki post that they are interested in selling to car manufacturers, in large volume, it costs a lot to produce these batteries and the cost will go up a huge amount if you only make a few at at time. Just look at our millitary and how much it costs to produce just a few aircraft a year instead of a few a month like is planned when the contracts are bid. You have the cost of the building, tooling, parts, and labor (you gonna lay off people between work days? it still will cost you especialy if you are dealing with a union) to make a small amount when you have to set up a large facility (and most buyers will want a custom product not take someone elses design for size weight or power rating) gets to be ridiculously expensive. This is part of the reason the military ended up with over priced toilet seats and hammers, they were not standard size or weight  and some were made of custom materials, you couldn't just crank them out on an assembly line as they only bought 60  or 120 (like for the coffe maker on the C-5 galaxy aircraft it had to work in a custom space and had other requirements that made it cost a ridiculous amount of money, and then they only made 60 some C-5 aircraft) (the same thing with the new C-17 transport congress is only buying 3 a year so you get a huge cost for each as Boeing has to keep an assembly line open to only make 3 aircraft a year, unlike the 737 line which makes more planes than that a month)

[StorminN]

the issue with large NIMH batteries could be just as simple as the scale, cost and resources involved in producing these batteries

This could be true, I don't know the numbers... but whatever the cause, it seems a little weird that Li-Ion / LiFePO4 batteries are soon going to surpass NiMh batteries in popularity in vehicles, even though NiMh are supposedly cheaper to build... the thing is, LiFePO4 batteries don't have patents owned by Chevron, and they're being built in China... who's to say?

-Norm.

[Fla._Deadheader]

 GM bought the rights to NiMh, then sold it to Chevron.    Now, the Govt is trying to bail out GM. Get the picture 

[rowerwet]

I do have to say that  based on my cordless power tool experience, NiMh has a lower power to weight than LiPo, it also will develop a memory unless drained before recharges, and cold will drain it where LiPo doesn't seem to be afected. LiPo will go into thermal runaway easier though so each battery needs a chip to monitor its discharge state. Both are better than lead acid which is what the prius and insight use as far as I know.

[StorminN]

I do have to say that  based on my cordless power tool experience, NiMh has a lower power to weight than LiPo, it also will develop a memory unless drained before recharges, and cold will drain it where LiPo doesn't seem to be afected. LiPo will go into thermal runaway easier though so each battery needs a chip to monitor its discharge state. Both are better than lead acid which is what the prius and insight use as far as I know.

I've had the same experience, and I've also noticed on my Milwaukee Li-Ion tools that if the batteries are cold, say 25F... when I first use the tool, it will run slow... but then after a few seconds of running slow, if I stop and start the tool again, the battery seems to "wake up" and act normally and the tool runs as normal...

The Prius and Insight both use NiMh packs... believe it or not, the Insight uses only 128 "D" cells! IIRC that's 8ah @ 144VDC for the Insight and 6.5Ah @ 275VDC for the Prius...

-Norm.