Author Topic: Need A Little ID help after a Short Walk (Read 2536 times)

Radar67 · « **on:** March 12, 2009, 10:51:49 pm »

I found a few plants that I can't Identify, any ideas?

Plant 1 Cercis canadensis Redbud

Plant 2 Viola sp. Wild Violet

Plant 3 Myrica cerifera, Southern Waxmyrtle

Plant 4 Cherry

The large part is the main trunk of this plant. You have to overlook the vine growing on it.

Plant 5 (Anise Tree)

I really enjoyed my walk and these plants' show of color livened it up a good bit.

Don K · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2009, 10:56:01 pm »

Plant 4 looks like a cherry to me. # 5 looks like some kind of magnolia. What do I knows.

I found a flowering shrub I am going to post in hopes somebody can identify. I've never seen it before.

Don

Radar67 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:01:10 pm »

I'll bet 5 is my anise tree Danny pointed out last year.

Don K · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:32:43 pm »

That's what you need to put in your fish soap.

Don

Radar67 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:37:38 pm »

Yup, already got some.

WDH · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:59:40 pm »

I believe that you are correct on #5.

jeffreythree · « **Reply #6 on:** March 13, 2009, 06:41:25 am »

Plant 1 is definitely a redbud, got one in my backyard with flowers just like that. Plant 2 is a wild violet: http://www.uky.edu/Ag/ukturf/weed%20id/Wild%20Violet.htm

WDH · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:58:31 am »

Plant #3 is Myrica cerifera, Southern Waxmyrtle

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2009, 03:24:28 pm »

Quote from: WDH on March 13, 2009, 08:58:31 am

Plant #3 is Myrica cerifera, Southern Waxmyrtle

They make scented candles with it. A pound of nuts immersed in hot water yields 4 ounces of wax.

A relative of our Myrica gale sweetgale. Leaves scented, used to flavour meat, and scent clothes

Radar67 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2009, 03:31:08 pm »

Thanks for all the help guys. Now I need to get some of those aluminum tags and start labeling some of them.

WDH · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:55:11 pm »

We still have #4 to go. I am still puzzled. Maybe if i saw it in person

. Can you bring me a twig next Tuesday?

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2009, 06:51:17 pm »

#4 Looks like a species of plum. I think a see a pair of unopened flower buds on the first twig.

Radar67 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2009, 06:58:07 pm »

Let's see if this helps.

Here is a close up of the leaf. Also, see the note below on the second picture of #4.

If this doesn't do it, I can stop by and get a twig Tuesday.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2009, 07:05:56 pm »

Speaks to me and says plum.

Those emergent leaves also tell me the flowers are not white, because of the pinkish fringe. They may possibly look white, but closeup they will be light pink or darker.

That's how I tell rose bloom color.

Radar67 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2009, 07:25:54 pm »

Which flowers are you talking about SD? Plant 1? If so, those flowers are purple when you are standing right there in front of it.

Plant 4 is a completely different plant than #1.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2009, 07:47:22 pm »

Talking about the leaves in #4, the spring flush of leaves will give you a hint to the flower color.

Radar67 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:16:33 pm »

I guess you can call me color challenged then, I can't see it.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:35:57 pm »

Ya gotta observe as well as look.

WDH · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2009, 11:11:21 pm »

Leaves look a little too big for a native plum. But it does look like a fruit tree, maybe peach.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2009, 07:33:52 am »

That would fit to if they go wild down there I suppose.

Dodgy Loner · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2009, 04:55:59 pm »

I'd bet your anise-tree that plant #4 is just a black cherry. If it were a plum, it would be in bloom right now. Plus, it has more lenticels than most of our native plums.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2009, 08:05:51 pm »

Who said anything about native?

We can't rule cherry out, but I was sure I seen an umbel on a twig. I mean it's flushed from the bud, but not open. Only Radar knows I guess.

Radar67 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 15, 2009, 08:10:16 pm »

I'm not 100% sure SD. There are cherries growing in the area. I plan to break off a twig for WDH to see Tuesday when we have supper together. We'll know for sure then.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2009, 08:15:55 pm »

Probably end up being cherry then. But I have had peach as well here and they are heavy on the lenticel department to.

WDH · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2009, 11:13:21 pm »

Dodgy,

You are probably right. It looked fruity, but somehow black cherry did not strike home

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SwampDonkey · « **Reply #25 on:** March 15, 2009, 11:30:02 pm »

cherry was too easy. Radar is suppose to know better.

Radar67 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 15, 2009, 11:38:00 pm »

What you mean SD? Know better than to give you such a simple example, or I should have known it was cherry, since I have already identified cherry on my place before? If it is the later, I plead it is a young plant without flower stalks and I am still new enough to plant ID to miss it.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #27 on:** March 15, 2009, 11:43:03 pm »

Welcome to the room of the simple minded. Ok, maybe not simple minded. But, bad acting characters at least.

Anyhow, I gotta pick on someone this morning. Tag, your it. Yeah, it's quarter to one in the morning.

Radar67 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:30:37 am »

Well, WDH confirmed the plant as Cherry. Although it was fairly easy to recognize this week since it had sprouted the racine flower stalks that scream "CHERRY".

With that out of the way, we had a great supper and browsed each other's wood lots through our conversation.

Don K · « **Reply #29 on:** March 18, 2009, 06:28:00 am »

At least I was right about the cherry.

Don

WDH · « **Reply #30 on:** March 18, 2009, 07:27:58 am »

Yes, a nice supper and a chance to discuss the world of wood.

Radar67 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:42:29 pm »

I have a couple of other plants to id. I'll include my choice to see if it is even close.

Plant 1 possible a water hickory

Plant 2 I'm thinking young persimmon (the bark is very similar to a recent ID)

This last one is not a plant, but it could be supper. I found this in my creek.

WDH · « **Reply #32 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:39:03 pm »

I bet the hickory is mockernut. You can see the tomentose rachis (hairy leaf petiole) in the photos.

You are right about the persimmon. The last two are dogwood.

That is a good sized mudbug!

Radar67 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 29, 2009, 10:15:20 pm »

Danny, the last two leaf pictures came off the tree with the "persimmon" bark. If you look close in the bark picture, you can see a couple of the leaves sprouting from the trunk.

This is the second time I've seen one that size in the creek. I'll be setting a trap when the water goes down a little.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:12:38 am »

The little creeks here were always full of them crayfish. Even creeks that dry up in summer, they hide under rocks.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #35 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:19:04 am »

Your last bark and leaves suggests flowering dogwood.

WDH · « **Reply #36 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:14:19 am »

You are right. Large dogwood and persimmon bark is similar, but persimmon bark is usually much blacker. I did not notice the sprouts

Chico · « **Reply #37 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:19:11 am »

First one we calla pignut hickorysecond looks like dogwood and the third is definately a mudbug

Chico

WDH · « **Reply #38 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:23:55 am »

#1 is definitely not pignut because pignut is smooth, not hairy.

Dodgy Loner · « **Reply #39 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:28:59 am »

Second one is defintely flowering dogwood, and I agree that the first is most likely a mockernut hickory...the leaf shape and the number of leaflets suggests bitternut hickory (which I thought it was at first), but the abundant bud scales identifies this as a 'true hickory'. The true hickories have imbricate buds, meaning that the buds have many overlapping scales. The 'pecan hickories', which includes pecan (of course), bitternut hickory, and water hickory, have naked buds (no scales), so you will not see those bud scales at the base of the new growth after bud break with these species.

Lanier_Lurker · « **Reply #40 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:35:05 am »

If you look carefully at the second hickory leaf picture you will see a leaf that has 9 leaflets. That is another strong indicator that it is a mockernut.

Lanier_Lurker · « **Reply #41 on:** March 30, 2009, 12:45:39 pm »

Quote from: Lanier_Lurker on March 30, 2009, 11:35:05 am

If you look carefully at the second hickory leaf picture you will see a leaf that has 9 leaflets. That is another strong indicator that it is a mockernut.

Um, yes...but that does not rule out bitternut...

WDH · « **Reply #42 on:** March 30, 2009, 08:19:43 pm »

Like Dodgy says, those imbricate bud scales (versus valvate) tell the tale on that hickory

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Radar67 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:18:48 pm »

Thanks guys. Now I have a couple more reference samples to match some of my other trees to.

I sure need to get some of those aluminum tags...I may have to bite my lip and drive to Jackson to the foresrty supply.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #44 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:46:59 am »

Just don't give him a butternut bud. I don't know about hickory so much, but on butternut terminal buds, the outermost pair of scales are feather-like in appearance.

WDH · « **Reply #45 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:19:01 pm »

Words of wisdom from the "Butternut Whisperer"

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Author Topic: Need A Little ID help after a Short Walk (Read 2536 times)