Author Topic: Ax Men makes me want to puke (Read 21782 times)

gunman63 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2009, 01:55:03 pm »

I enjoyed it, sure its TV, a show, thats it, somes real somes not, but the really neat thing is if u dont like it, DONT WATCH IT, simple as that, I just get a kick out of people that watch something and it "makes them puke" and then turn around and watch more of it.

Burlkraft · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2009, 05:39:13 pm »

Where's Deadheader

I gotta ask him if his Auqa Logging was like that guy's

When I was watchin' that part I was thinkin' I wudda liked ta been sittin' next to him and just hear some of the comments

Fla._Deadheader · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2009, 05:41:53 pm »

Maybe, in a couple of weeks or so, when we MIGHT get that program down here, I will get with ya on comparing notes.

Burlkraft · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2009, 05:50:24 pm »

Did ya ever run yer barge into a bridge

Did ya ever jump out and try to swim against the tide

Did ya ever just stand there and hollar.....Well....Mebby we otta ask Ed that one

Corley5 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 04, 2009, 06:04:45 pm »

I was thinking the same things Burlkraft

I'm looking forward to more underwater logging in the NW and FDH comments

Ron Scott · « **Reply #25 on:** March 04, 2009, 07:04:43 pm »

Not very well thought out; a good comedy. I was wondering if it was for real.

spencerhenry · « **Reply #26 on:** March 04, 2009, 07:53:13 pm »

ax men sure beats the hell out of american loggers.

there is some staged stuff on the show, but just because some incident was staged doesnt mean that it didnt happen when the camera wasnt running. it seems to me that the show is not intended to be a documentary, but rather entertainment based in reality. i am sure some of the guys on the show are real idiots, others are far from it. think about J browning, i would bet he owns more equipment, employs more people, and makes more money than ANYONE that posts on this forum. he obviously knows what it takes to run a business and be successful. hell, they all do except for maybe the aqua logger.
i have been ridiculed on this site before for some of my posts. but here i go again. i make my living felling, limbing, and skidding. i dont wear chaps, i dont own a hard hat, i cuss as bad as most of the guys on the show, i have been known to throw a fit now and then, but i have been in business for myself for 15 years and i have done very well.
like someone else said, if you don like the show, dont watch it.

woodhick · « **Reply #27 on:** March 04, 2009, 11:11:49 pm »

I think a lot of the drama is staged to make a good show but I will continue to watch it as there nothing else on that intersts me.

Chico · « **Reply #28 on:** March 05, 2009, 02:44:56 am »

I saw it once that was quite enough for me Loggers my arse
Chico

Jeff · « **Reply #29 on:** March 05, 2009, 03:19:05 am »

With that kind of statement I really doubt you watched it. There is no question these men are loggers. Weather you favor the way they are portrayed by a show-biz production company or not is one thing, but to question the fact of what they do for a living is valid, is ridiculing and off base.

Chico · « **Reply #30 on:** March 05, 2009, 04:18:39 am »

I know many loggers and what I was making my statement about was the needless chances they were taking with human life I've ran very small mills very large I've had men get killed while working for me I've had them lose arms Legs but not one of them was because of playing games one death was a freak accident the other was a case of another supervisor cranking a machine before it was ready and had all the safety measures on I had to go to both families and explain why and what happen Thats why I am a safety nut I agree it may be entertaining but it's also degrading IMO When that man is screaming at them he's taking their mind off what their doing which is very dangerous Theres a time to have a prayer meeting with a man but right in the middle of everything an in front of all the rest of the crew 's not it
JMO
Chico

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #31 on:** March 05, 2009, 06:10:30 am »

If I had a choice to watch "ax men" versus "survivor" I would definitely go "ax men". It's my hope that eventually they will leave the PNW and migrate to other areas of the country. Those guys are real, but a little racey at times. It's still hard to grasp all the tarzan type run'n and jump'n about. Hard on the body as I seen one old guy last season developed bad knees (that's for real). Climb those mountains with heavy gear and constant rain and you'll find out, on top of all the jumping. The language and communication is quite real to me. I'm just commenting on the couple of taped episodes I saw last season. I can't get History Channel here.

Chico · « **Reply #32 on:** March 05, 2009, 06:54:50 am »

I have no doubt those guys are real loggers and I know the wear and tear but being used to that they might have probs in other styles of logging as the swamp loggers would have if they were out of their element I just think that they trivialize what they do and overemphasize some the antics Loggings not for everyone I did my share in the Tn Mts and the WV mts and la amiss ans Al swamps and they all have their challenges you know they were using cable lines in the late 1800s in the swamps pf Al Fla Miss and La pulling out cypress so there are some norms
Chico

Dan_Marino · « **Reply #33 on:** March 05, 2009, 08:07:32 am »

One of my posts was deleted becasue it was considered a swipe at a person. I didnt think it was anymore of a swipe at him as his was at me. I stated that the way things are depicted for logging in the show makes me want to puke. Its sad that a few million people form opinions about me and the rest of the logging world based on the fake drama of that show.

I like some things about the show but I get sick when I see things being over dramatized. this makes people think this is the norm for every logging operation in the U.S.

question - do the crews get paid for filming?

Jeff · « **Reply #34 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:00:16 am »

The Ax men is not a documentary. It's not a how-to-do-it guide. Its purely an entertainment production based on reality. The whole premise of the show is how dangerous logging is. They probably have thousands of hours of tape that they squeeze the excitement out of. Those few sequences are used to create the drama for the show.

What amazes me is how one can be so insecure in what he does, that he feels that this type of show is undermining his profession. If that was so, we would not be typing here now because the Professor on Gilligan's island surly made science and technology look so ridiculous as he could make any type of invention out of bamboo and coconuts but he couldn't build a raft.

Its a T.V. show. Ya'll should try to separate that from reality.

Chico · « **Reply #35 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:38:46 am »

I myself can diferentiate the diff and I think they staement isuncalled for I never heard anyone say it was a documentary I did hear sev including myself say that it could influence the uninformed public. That was my main complaint The thing is most of the "dangers " they show are brought on by themselves or lends itself to that thought imo After all these are just opinions and we know what they say about them ;DI've never been insecure about anything .Anything I;ve wanted to or started out to do I've done it Done many things been many places that a lot of people only dream about would like to get to a few more Gilligans Island was a comedy this is supposed to be an informative show showing real life loggers doing real work what do they say not reality Actuality JMO
Chico

Jeff · « **Reply #36 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:41:43 am »

There ya go. I wasn't even referring to your post but you thought I was.

Jeff · « **Reply #37 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:48:56 am »

Lets say they were going to make a show called the portable bandsaw man.

They could film for weeks and not get much of anything new from logs going on and boards coming off. However in that time someone flips a log over the back stops. Another time you saw into them, another time you forget to put the legs down on the back end of the mill, and while moving the head to the other end the tongue flies up in the air. Maybe you drop a cant on your finger and blow it open. Maybe you walk around the end of the mill and catch your leg on the hitch tearing a gash in your jeans and your leg.

Now they compile the episode. Guess what makes the cut? We all know that it ain't that every day. It might generate interest though in someone that knows nothing. They might seek to find out what kind of people go out and saw lumber and subject themselves to this sort of comic carnage. Then they find out that its not what it seems, its actually just a job filled with its related pitfalls.

Papa1stuff · « **Reply #38 on:** March 05, 2009, 11:28:35 am »

Jeff-Have you done all those things?

Jeff · « **Reply #39 on:** March 05, 2009, 11:40:26 am »

Absolutely.

So has most everyone else. Those are the things you remember. You might remember a day that you had that was perfect, but what you remember is the outcome, not the normal events that got you there.

I was thinking about some of my times in the woods. I spent a couple summers out of the mill and in the woods crews when our lumber markets were quite poor, but we could still sell pulp. As I think back, the only things I recall are the "events". An event was not typically a good thing. In fact, hardly ever. Running to the woods, jumping out of the skidder, dragging out the mainline, hooking chokers, winching in, haul to the landing, jump out, unhook, go for another skid. When things are going right, its absolutely forgettable and boring. You don't find a place for it in your mind. I do remember vividly the things I learned that I did wrong when I started working out there. The type of things that would get recorded for ever if someone were filming.

If you take the first episode of Axmen this season as an example where doowop about gets his leg taken off after hitting a spring pole with a saw. That was sure a learning experience for him. He survived it. Either he learned from it, or the next time he might be dead. The show left me with that message. If you just saw him walking and limbing, the everyday stuff. So what.

When they forgot to unhook the one tree on the landing and it bulleted over the side of the hill. That happens. You can bank on it. !00 to one it didnt happen as portrayed on the show. It was probably very much dramatized to show a point. If you didnt add the hollering and edit back in the running out of the way, that probably never happened, and only saw the log start off on a return visit down the mountain, then stop and come back up, even the armchair logger probably would not have said a word and the general public wouldn't have a clue that it was something that could be very dangerous.

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