Author Topic: american loggers (Read 12821 times)

a old timberjack · « **on:** February 21, 2009, 09:41:00 pm »

i assume everyone seen or already taalked about this new show this fri 10 pm eastern time. on disc. " american loggers " about northern maine on the golden road. it is finially great to see some east coast new england logging, espicially on tv. any mainers got any scoop???

Don K · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2009, 10:42:04 pm »

Don't have anything to add, but I'll be watching. My Grandaddy was a logger so I guess it is in my blood even if I make my living doing something else less satisfying.

Don

thecfarm · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2009, 06:47:41 am »

I will like to see it too.I wonder if it will be all planted pine pine that will be cut?

Maineloggerkid · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2009, 06:51:01 am »

I don't think it is planted pine. I also think that at the beginning, they were going to focus more on the trucking, but then decided to go to logging. So the first episodes might be more on the trucks, then logging. I could be all wrong, I'm just passing second hand info along, here.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2009, 06:57:01 am »

If it's pine, I wonder how long ago it's been planted. The earliest planting on any scale here in New Brunswick was K. C. Irving back in the 50's. It was spruce and the wood in those plantations are still small diameter and not all that tall. Definitely no 20" and 80+ foot trees yet, mostly what I would call pulp size. As far as pine (jack, red, white) I have never seen anything in plantations that would be anything to brag about yet. I saw a piece of white pine on Dr. R. Giberson's lot in NB that he planted 40 years ago, the weevil has ruined it. He practiced medicine in Presque Isle Maine and lives in Arizona. He's over 90 years old now I think. Locally known as "Doc" in our woodlot association.

Maineloggerkid · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2009, 07:03:26 am »

I've seen some pictures of the deal already, and what I saw on the truck was tree lenght spruce and fir.

TessiersFarm · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2009, 04:41:37 pm »

I was doing some construction work on the golden road when they were filming it last year. It was focusing on Pelletier brothers which is one of the oldest continuous contractors on the golden road. At that time they were hauling different wood in both directions because a new spur had been added to a Canadian mill. I am not sure just where they were filming the logging part but I know they were running a lot of tandem wide bodies up and down the telos road, they had cameras on the grills, bunks, ect. I wish I had cable so I could watch it.

chainspinrunner · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2009, 04:43:25 pm »

It's about time they have a documentary on some timber workers from different parts of the nation. No offense to the western workers, but it is nice to see some other operations to compare and contrast.

linrick1 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2009, 07:15:06 pm »

I ran the Golden Road for a few years back in the ealy '90s, driving for a guy out of Millinocket. While I was up there Pelletier, Gardner, and H.O. Bouchard were the big outfits, I ran a highway truck all over the place out of those woods and let me tell you those boys can go, and go hard, for a long, long time without ever seeming to sleep...especially before spring breakup-I remember (vaguely) flying down the road with 100K on for the mill so tired I would be seeing double (log book? right). I know a few of the Pelletiers, they're a good bunch of guys and they run real nice equipment. They had some beautiful Mack 10 wheel drive, RD888s maybe, pulling their doubles, turned up E9 V-8s, just real nice iron. What has screwed me up about the commercial for the show is the axle spacing on the highway trailer. We ran a triaxle setup so I am curious about this - maybe a Canadien weight thing? Looking forward to seeing the show, Rick

Meadows Miller · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2009, 08:59:07 am »

Gday

Its a Weight thing Linrick Mate We Aust

have only had tri's here since the 70s but before that theyd tryed bogie sperads, tri spreads and Quads but it wasnt untill the 80s we started seeing Bogie tri tri Bdoubles

and we also have alot of rigids with folding quad dogs running around now at about 50 odd ton gross

and heres one new one for you blokes to have a squizz at go to youtube and type in Elpinstone B tripple

about 90 ton gross and will be leagl on most major routes in Vic within a year or so

Elphinstone also build the first folding skell ;)A Freind of the family had the first in victoria in 88 they are a pretty neat settup if your doing logs mostly one way and they also give you alot more traction and monerverability out the bush

I wish we had shows on logging here but the only time you will see anything about it is usually a flash on the news with some bloody greeny hangn off the bullbar of a log truck ,holding up logging by chaining themselfs to gear

I might have to get myself a coppy of afew of your shows you have overthere on dvd if i can

Reguards Chris

Maineloggerkid · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2009, 09:09:42 am »

If anyone chained themselves to my stuff, I'd think about carrying bolt cutters aand mace with me. I guess your not actually supposed to hurt them....something about violating rights.

timberfaller390 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:28:34 am »

Why use the bolt cutters? Just take off with them still strapped in, they'll get the idea eventually

Maineloggerkid · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2009, 04:57:41 pm »

That works just as well, I suppose.

ScottAR · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2009, 11:34:49 pm »

Just tie up the danglely bits and give 'em a ride they won't forget.

I've actually heard a few stories like this... The one that comes to
mind is a greenie tied themselves to the bucket of a wheel loader.

The workmen show up at work time and raised the bucket to full height....
...and went about their day. Greenie eventually gave up and asked to be
let down.

Meadows Miller · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:17:46 am »

Gday

Those ideas would work well

but the police are out the to keep an eye on things these days

But you still hear of the odd group getting a good hiding

The funniest id heard of was a log truck driver who use to cart logs from Sale in east gippsland to the family mill at Heathcote a round trip of 450 odd miles

that had a couple of them jump (one with a gitar over his sholder ) on the bull bar while he was trying to leave the landing while a tv crew was there He was that piffed off that he once he got passed the tv crew that he gunned it for about another 5 miles up the track with these two Idiots (all you could hear was a Kw with a 8v92 tta at full flight ) hanging of the front of the truck Breaking arials and lights and things off there mounts

When the tv crew finaly cought up they found the two greenes looking Alittle worse for wear

sitting on the side of the road saying we wernt expecting that reaction

:)the one with the gitar was found wearing it over his head

They all called him Bruser on the Road after that

The two idiots tryed to take him to court but the judge threw it out Because they had clearly Provoced Him

Reguards Chris

timberfaller390 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2009, 08:32:18 am »

well did anybody catch the first episode last night? Maineloggerkid was right about them showing mostly trucking. If all those rigs really rolled in a week then they are having some hard luck. Down here if you roll one and it is not a mechanical failure then your ass is gone.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2009, 09:33:37 am »

Might have something to do with going too fast on snow and ice covered roads. I never saw the show, but even the Renous highway here, which is a paved highway and about 100 miles long, is completely ice from October to May. Because even the snow turns to ice with the heavy trucks pounding over the road. There is nothing but woods all that length and no services of any kind, so anyone going by car is taking their chances.

inspectorwoody · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2009, 10:01:34 am »

I thought it was pretty good.

They did focus on the trucks and it even looks like next week they might also. Looks like one of the drivers get hurt seriously.

One of the roll overs was driver error and it was the second time the driver has rolled one. They kept him.

The other roll over was caused by something breaking on the truck.

They go and go hard as linrick1 said. One of the drivers mentioned something about only 3 hrs of sleep.

Maineloggerkid · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2009, 10:26:31 am »

Ya, the average speed on those dirt roads is 65 mph. I've driven trucks on that road before, and it was fun, though. I think as the show progresses, they will start more into the logging. The show was originally going to be only about trucking, then the decided they liked the logging part, too. Next week, I think they are going to show them hauling double trailers. A while back, they used to hual doubles and even triples on a regular basis.

Maineloggerkid · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2009, 10:51:59 am »

The way we can get away with so many hours up here is that on dirt roads, laws don't apply. when you are off the highway, a guy can go as long as he can stay awake. Even on the highways, we can go as long as we can stand, because if you operate within 100 air miles of home base, you can waive your log book in the state of Maine. You are allowed 12 hours a day on the road, but with no log book- who's gonna prove otherwise??

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