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Offline redneck

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hercules winch won't lock load up
« on: January 06, 2009, 07:48:17 pm »
my hercules winch on my tj skidder pulls fine but won't hold up a heavy load. :(  1 or 2 stems fine but anything heavy won't hold up to rollers. ???  any suggestions would be great
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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 09:38:17 pm »
we had one a few years back that we didn't used much, so i dont know much about the hercules, but anyways one time the drum wouldn't hold and it was a spring in that cylinder on the side of the winch, which was an easy fix, the spring was broke we just took it out and put a new one in, but it could be the bands in the winch, then youre getting into a few more dollars.

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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 11:20:40 pm »
check the adjustment on the brake band- if it's too loose it will slip, too tight and you will be fighting it to pull out your cable. If it's the same set up as the one I use, there is a lock nut  where the hydraulic release cylinder goes through the end of the brake band, that's where you adjust it I think.
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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 05:01:49 am »
Like barbender says adjust the brake piston until it starts to drag on the drum a little,that's as tight as you want it.
 If the piston only works one way the spring may be broke.Also,watch the winch drum to see if it moves up and down if the drum or shaft bearing is bad the brake won't hold good either.
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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 08:42:15 am »
Thanks i will check that adjustment when it warms up a little. 

Does anyone know where i can download diagrams or a service manual for a 208 timber jack?

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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 09:36:54 am »
Cam Hardwig at Northern Timberline in Littlefork, MN faxed me a parts diagram when I was working on the pto on the TJ. I don't know the number, I'll try to search it on the web. He's pretty knowledgable,  he told me in 2 minutes more than the local John Deere/Timberjack dealer could in a week.
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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 09:39:25 am »
I forgot, I don't know if I am supposed to post phone numbers on here, I can PM it to you (they don't have a web site)
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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009, 10:58:38 am »
redneck,

I went to www.johndeeretechinfo.com and ordered the cd / repair manual for our 230D.  I want to say it was under $35 and it paid for itself the first day.  I would recommend paying the extra for shipping to get it a little quicker.  It's got a pretty good troubleshooting chart too.  Sorry I don't have it on me.

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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 12:03:02 pm »
It could be the adjustment or the bands need replacing. MY freind has a 440B that was having similair problems, and the bands themselves were gone.
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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 01:02:16 pm »
If you can get a manual for $35, I'd do it. Like Matt said, it would pay for itself the first day.
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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 09:44:22 pm »
thanks for that number and website :) i will look into ordering that service manual when i finish plowing this snow were getting.... only a few inches of snow but all the parking lots need plowed >:(
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Re: hercules winch won't lock load up
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2009, 11:01:05 pm »
 Did you get your winch to hold a load. I had an eaton/hercules winch a few years ago that wouldn't hold . The bolt holes that attach the brake band were cracked and allowed it to give enough to slip. Couldn't get it to free spool if I tightened it enough to hold a load.
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