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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2008, 07:19:53 PM »

just picked up my 5036 sunday plan on hooking up this weekend, but as it sat in my driveway on the trailer neighbor already bitching they are going to complain about hte smoke it causes because of all the negative things online about owb and how bad they smoke and the emissions they give off. the people i know that have central boilers said they dont smoke that bad so hoping not to have to much smoke but was wondering if there are any websites that have actual emission test on these boilers expecially the 5036 since any sites i found say they have really been any full testing or if they mention test it doesnt say what owb was tested i have a permit from town so not much they can do but i have seen some royal crown furnaces that smoke alot and the smoke just hangs there thank
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2008, 05:31:29 PM »

Congrates firefreak47 on your purchase. I also have a 5036 and I don't run a cap on it and it doesn't smoke to bad. The dryness of the wood has alot to do with how much it smokes - mainly only when the damper opens. Where in NY are you, I'm near Kingston if you wanted to check it out.
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2008, 07:30:33 PM »

tonto i am near middletown i dont plan on running it with a cap either how long have you had it? where did you purchace. i think the problem with the neighbor is just all the negativity online about owbs they pointed out the one from office of attorney general smoke gets in you lungs but even in there they say there hasnt been enough testing i have to tried to find positive test results expecially on this model to so them but havent found any, but hey cant please everyone
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2008, 10:45:29 AM »

Firebreak47, I live in Kerhonkson just a bit north of Ellenville. My Neighbors where a little nervous at first also but once they have seen running now for 3 weeks it doesn't smoke much more than their wood stoves did. I placed it so the way the wind blows the most , it sends the smoke out into a corn field most of the time. It is only about 50 feet from all 3 houses. I bought mine from Halloran Farms in Callicoon Center - very nice people to deal with.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2008, 08:47:32 PM »

tonto that is where i purchaced mine as well, my owf will be about 250 feet away from there house and the wind will blow it to the back not the side towards them most of the time
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2008, 02:00:52 PM »

I'll try and get this thread back on topic.  Roll Eyes


As of today, Im almost finished phase 2 of the CL6048 project.


Here is a shot of the new barn (garage) I recently had put up.  Tomorrow the concrete gets poured.  Smiley




This effort has been a long time coming and is completly funded by part-time custom milling.  Smiley


As you can see in these next two photos the garage is going to have under floor heat.  Smiley Smiley

 




These two shots show where everything comes together and goes goes under wall to the CL6048 and the power panel in the house.   





This last photo I refer to as "my thinking ahead photo"  Grin    The wider spacing between the pex runs is to give me a place to "safely" drill  holes to mount my tire changing machine without drilling through my heat tubing.  Wink




This is going to be so great working with not only a concrete floor, but one with heat.   Just a doin da Forestry Forum Boogie Just a doin da Forestry Forum Boogie Just a doin da Forestry Forum Boogie.   I'm not going to miss laying on gravel or wet grass.  Grin     If all goes as planned, I should be moving in by thanksgiving day.   Just a doin da Forestry Forum Boogie Just a doin da Forestry Forum Boogie Just a doin da Forestry Forum Boogie
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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2008, 10:48:53 AM »

So now I have to build another building . . . Wink
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2008, 10:56:32 AM »

So now I have to build another building . . . Wink


             With heat .  Ya dats a good one!
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2008, 11:29:59 AM »

check, with heat  Just a doin da Forestry Forum Boogie

It will be my new bio diesel processing facility - with no flame heat  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2008, 02:00:44 PM »

DR Buck,

Did you put foam insulation under the gravel?

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« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2008, 02:08:02 PM »

DR Buck,

Did you put foam insulation under the gravel?



No....This is Virginia,  not Michigan.  Ya dats a good one!
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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2008, 05:50:56 PM »

I know. Roll Eyes

But you will be suprised at the heat loss to the ground even in your area. Grin
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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2008, 07:18:28 PM »

Dr Buck, I am so jealous, This is the type and size of building that I would like to build someday and also heat with my Central Boiler. What size is it and what do you think you will have invested in it if you don't mind me asking?
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« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2008, 07:40:27 PM »

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That VA ground is gonna be warmer soon... Grin Grin
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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2008, 09:11:58 PM »

Dr Buck, I am so jealous, This is the type and size of building that I would like to build someday and also heat with my Central Boiler. What size is it and what do you think you will have invested in it if you don't mind me asking?

Building is 30 x 40 x 10     Cost ~21k including under floor heat (not the boiler).
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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2008, 09:36:37 PM »

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Then they will be turning on  their airconditioners back on. Roll Eyes Ya dats a good one! Ya dats a good one! Ya dats a good one! Ya dats a good one!
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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2008, 11:30:30 AM »

That's how I did mine.I do lose some heat this way.I only buried my lines about 18 inches.The snow will stay on top of where the lines are buried for 2-3 days than it's bare ground. Would the more expensive PEX pipe pay for itself in 10 years?
I got the thermopex, I have 85', not cheap but I loose no heat and the ground in my backyard is frozen solid over the pipe run. I also see no heat loss from one end to the other. The claim is 1* for every 100'.
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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2009, 06:37:29 PM »

I purchased a central boiler 6048 3 years ago.  I run it just during the winter months.  I get real tired of burning at the end of winter and don't want to worry about it until October.  I burn
20-30 cords of wood during this time period.  2/3 of this is for my 2 outbuildings:  40x60 and a 30x30.

Don't get to anxious about empting your ashes.  My salesman told me you would lose a lot of heat if you didn't leave a lot of ash.  I didn't really believe him, but I have noticed a huge difference for 2-3 days after I empty.  I do this once/month.  I leave a lot of ash still in the box.

I also had a draft inducer installed on my when it was new.  I don't recommend one.  I took it off this year and reduced my wood consumption by 1/3.

You should love your new boiler.
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« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2009, 09:25:05 PM »

I'm getting ready for the coming heating season.    The slab pile is in good shape and should carry me for some time.   I also have a number of downed oaks back in the woods to haul out.    I expect it will be sometime mid to late October when I fire it up.

I also think I fixed one of the issues I had last winter.   The smoke from the CB would hang low around the back yard and you could smell it in the house when there wasn't any wind blowing.   I added two additional sections of smoke stack to get it up clear of all obstructions.  It wasn't cheap, but it was necessary.   The top of the stack is now 20' off the ground.    Besides the two chimney sections, I had to buy the brace kit, bottom brace ring and reinforcing band clamps for each section.   

I still need to get the propane line connected for the backup burner.  I haven't used it at all yet.   But if I plan on being gone 3 days or so I will need it.   However, it takes a while for the fire to burn out and for the water to cool down.  Last year when I shut it down, it took 7 days for the coals to cool down and the water temp to drop below 100°.   Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2009, 05:20:16 PM »

Dr Buck, I ran mine all summer just to see how much of a pain it would be to run. Not that bad, only burned about a cord and a half of scrap wood since April. Smoke can be a little tricky as the wind can be very still sometimes - not going were it normally does. When it would not cooperate I would just lower the temp so it wouldn't come on and wait for the wind to pick up and then raise the temp - never had to re-light the stove, sometimes even 3-4 days later. I am so happy with this stove I just can't believe I didn't do it sooner. Have not burned a drop of oil since Nov 08. Tonto.
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