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« on: October 29, 2008, 07:33:42 pm »
I have not seen the tree yet but no one at the job site can name it.  Pine like tree with weeping like limbs.  It has soft needles that come from the branches themself, and a very red heart.  I will pick up the wood tomorrow and post my description with pictures.  Thanks in advance.
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 11:18:39 pm »
I know it seems strange to get a possible answer to something like this from an old fart in Florida.  But, given that the describer ain't even seen the tree, and the details of its description are sketchy at best, I guess my guess is as good as anybody's. ;D :D

Actually, I was in Maine a few years ago, visiting a friend, and he had a tree in his yard that was much like what you describe.  I asked about it, and he said it was a "Weeping Hackmatack."  I understand that this is like some sort of a Larch-like tree.
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 11:21:51 pm »
I am with DanG.  I think that it must be a Weeping Hackmatack ;D.
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 06:52:58 am »
The needles on my Hackmatack are yellow now and dropping off.I don't remember the red heart.I'm cutting mine for fire wood.Still clearing the grown up pasture.
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 07:05:17 am »
Japanese Larch is my guess. However, wild tamarack , or what Dang called it, is white as spruce, unless fast grown when it tends to turn red in the heart. Western larch is always reddish brown or rust brown heart. So with all that, without seeing it, I have to conclude it's a larch, species unknown. ;D

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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 07:11:31 am »
It turns out the next door neighbor is keeping it for firewood, but I have to go to the bank in the same town later today so I put the batteries for my camera into the charger and will drive by for a picture so we can have some real facts on this hackmatack attack
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 07:17:36 am »
Tamarack, aka eastern larch, is certainly native to NH.

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2008, 09:02:57 am »
I don't suppose y'all have deodar cedars up there, do you?  If the tree was down south that would be my first guess, but up in New Hampshire Larix spp. is probably a safer bet.
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2008, 10:35:52 am »
It might be a previously undescribed, newly discovered species of hackmatack.  If so, we could name it Hackmatack dangit :D
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008, 06:27:34 pm »
ok here are some shots, and except for the wide red heart I am going with plain old hemlock.  If it is how could the tree guys miss that?




















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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2008, 07:10:59 pm »
Looks like Japanese larch to me. I cut one down in the yard last spring after the dang nabbed sap suckers destroyed it.  >:(

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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2008, 08:09:00 pm »
That bark does not look like hemlock - and I saw a bunch of them last weekend in NE Georgia.

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2008, 08:12:33 pm »
I see larch twigs with short shoots and larch needles attached to some of the sticks. Looks like Japanese larch  bark to. Gotta give the tree guys a little more credit I thinks. ;) :D

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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2008, 08:21:59 pm »
OK reminds me of monty python



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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2008, 12:01:12 am »
Hackmatack, did I mention hackmatack? :D
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2008, 12:39:49 am »
DanG I thought you made that name up till I found that nickname under Tamarack, Eastern Larch, or Larix laricina. I like Hackmatack better and that is my guess too.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2008, 06:50:46 am »
NO, he never made it up. It's a common name in some areas up here.  :) Hackmatack bark is more spruce like on small sticks and you often find a spiral twist to the trunk, not flaky like Japanese.

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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2008, 07:12:12 am »
doesnt the hackmatack lose its leaves?
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2008, 10:15:42 am »
Yes, but not yet. They are still on trees here.

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2008, 10:39:14 am »


tamarack, hackmatack




Japanese larch, two split chunks (side by side) from a sap sucker killed yard tree.


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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2008, 03:39:20 pm »
Looks like you nailed it, SD! :)
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2008, 07:30:41 pm »
still lokks like hemlock to me
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2008, 08:05:50 am »
It does look a lot like a hemlock, but the needles of a hemlock come out from the twig in one plane, like a feather.  In your pictures, you can see that the needles come out from the twig in all directions.
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Re: gonna need help with this one
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2008, 05:09:40 pm »
still no answer and I don't have the logs.
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