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Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« on: October 23, 2008, 09:18:14 pm »
Sawed out the joists the other day, and raided my stash for sub floor for my 100 year old smokehouse.

A friend of mine in construction gave me several hundred square feet of clear pine T&G flooring and some concrete decking for the roof..the building is 12X12, ought to make a nice tight little workshop...I need to find a little pot belly stove for it though.

I'll eventually put a lean two on two sides of it...wifey wants one for an outdoor canning kitchen.

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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 09:21:19 pm »
On the subject of woodstoves in workshops, don't they dry the air a lot? Would putting a little pot of water on top of them help get a little moisture back?
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 10:04:16 pm »
yep, It's a good idea to keep a pot on..we live in an old house with wood heat...we keep a pot on top
of the stove to keep the woodwork from getting too dry..

There are alot of variables though..how wet is the atmosphere, how big is the shop, how tight is the shop building..how much wood is stored there? Is is greater concern to keep machinery dry, or keep wood from drying out...what kind of finish work is done in the shop?

but in general, i like a pot on the stove..besides, I drink alot of coffee.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 10:09:46 pm »
I have an old woodstove that I'm probably gonna put in my shop soon. It's about 30x30. I'm hoping it'll keep it somewhat warm. I'll have to see how dry it gets, I'm hoping to keep it so that the wood doesn't dry out too much, but keeping my tools from rusting. Either way, it should be better than being unheated like it is now. (although right now I occasionally use a forced-air kerosene heater).

You're smokehouse-turned-workshop sounds like a neat project. Pictures?
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2008, 03:12:34 am »
30 x 30 is a fair sized stove ifn it's tall enough. :D
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 06:47:57 am »

 We always keep 2 buckets of water on the woodstove at the cabin. It's free warm water for coco or to help save you from heating it up on the gas stove when you need wash water. No hot running water in the cabin. It still gets pretty dry but it helps a little.

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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008, 11:41:20 am »
Quote from: LeeB on October 24, 2008, 03:12:34 am
30 x 30 is a fair sized stove ifn it's tall enough. :D

Now that's a stove  8)
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2008, 11:59:30 am »
Wow; If the stove is that big, then how big is the shop? 3000' x 3000' ?
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 12:42:31 pm »
I meant the shop was 30x30, in case you didn't catch that.  :)
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 07:53:56 pm »
My next door neighbor is building a 35x40 shop building, and offered me hs certified drawings...my wife said no.


Because she wants a 45x60....wish I had the $$ to pull that off anytime soon.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2008, 06:50:59 am »
Zopi,if you can swing it insulate your shop,two reasons first easier to heat, more important it will help keep condensation off your tools when the weather changes.Frank C.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2008, 09:11:57 am »
Quote from: zopi on October 24, 2008, 07:53:56 pm
My next door neighbor is building a 35x40 shop building, and offered me hs certified drawings...my wife said no.


Because she wants a 45x60....wish I had the $$ to pull that off anytime soon.

Go one better... Use the plans, but build two of them butted together, omit the common wall, wind up with 40X70...
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2008, 09:27:27 am »
won't work...the drawings are for the bureauRats at the county...gotta be eggzact.

I hates me some bureauRats.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2008, 11:44:36 pm »
I got alot done today...ripped the front off the building, replaced most of the studs (partnered them)
and started putting up furring for the vertical siding...started raining on me so I ducked inside and nailed down the subfloor and started laying the T&G pine floor...that's gonna be a sexy floor...wifey cut loose and got me a couple cans of red mahogany stain and some floor urethane...

I'll get out in the morning and put the siding on the front before we go off to Busch Gardens for the last day of the season.

hint to the wise...2" nails don't work well with 2x4's....doh...hadda go to the lumberyahd..3-1/4 much better.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2008, 11:45:14 pm »
oh...and air nailers rock..I may never swing a hammer again.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2008, 11:57:52 pm »
Last summer I helped my dad build an addition on to our house, and we used air nailers for everything. We wouldnt have got it done near as fast without them. I've yet to try a screw-gun. I wonder what they are like.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2008, 12:28:20 am »
I've got a screw gun...for doing sheet rock....they are awesome!
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2008, 12:31:31 am »
I had a wood heater one time that was at least 30x30 and if you were 10 feet away you were cold  :D   For a few years I had my shop in a 50x90 brick building that wasnt insulated. Dont miss it at all.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2008, 12:46:12 am »
Quote from: zopi on October 25, 2008, 11:45:14 pm
oh...and air nailers rock..I may never swing a hammer again.

You got it Zopi!  A little tip for ya:  I have a 10 gallon air tank, and it will shoot about 60-80 nails through my DeWalt framing nailer.  It's real handy when you're away from power/compressor. ;D
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2008, 01:50:58 am »
Quote from: DanG on October 26, 2008, 12:46:12 am

You got it Zopi!  A little tip for ya:  I have a 10 gallon air tank, and it will shoot about 60-80 nails through my DeWalt framing nailer.  It's real handy when you're away from power/compressor. ;D

Go ya one better...I've got a 16ft trailer, about four compressors, buttoads of hose and extension cords and a generator...<GRIN>

Overkill....call it a hobby...
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2008, 08:30:13 am »
Air tool tip,if you need a long air line or want to use a big tool like a 3/4 impact to break something loose,have a tank with an unrestricted valve near the tool.Gives you a burst of air with good volume tank replenishes during down time.The tank also doubles as portable air to fill tires and blowoff sawdust. Frank C.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2008, 07:45:06 pm »
I have a 25 gal air compressor tank on wheels, without the air compressor, so that it is easy to move around. There are 2 valves. Like bandmiller said, its good for a mid-line boost, and as a portable air tank when you need a little more air.
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2008, 08:30:24 pm »
Quote from: zopi on October 25, 2008, 11:45:14 pm
oh...and air nailers rock..I may never swing a hammer again.
Air nailers can save alot of time in constuction  and wages if you're paying for help, but they can also put you on the disabled list if you get careless. So be carefull !!! Personally I haven't been injured, but have some buddies who've had some serious down time due to air nailer miscues.
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2008, 11:54:21 pm »
I got the front wall roughed in this morning before we left, and part of the siding up, hopefully I will finish the siding tomorrow, at least on that wall...

Mt neighbor was looking at some flitches i had laid out to rip into furring battens and was all agog at how pretty the lumber was..so when I started pulling out 18" cypress boards 16 ft long to rip in half for the siding boards he was kind of blown away...what did he think I was doing with a sawmill?
Making chopsticks?

Oh..going to go with dark barn red and white trim...
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2008, 07:44:36 am »
Ok, Ok OK,  WHERE are the pictures?????????  The Senior Chief wants some pictures!!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;D

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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2008, 11:03:56 am »
Suck it up senior.

I'll try to get some...hopefully I will escape from the cubical in time to get some work done today...
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2008, 06:45:47 pm »
No pics, but I did close in the front wall before the downpour. Guess I need to do the roof..it leaks like
a seive.

I guess I'll go ahead and do the other three walls, I can get them up pretty quick.
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2008, 02:33:31 pm »
awright...I promise i'll get some pics in a few days...if I can find the bloody camera...

I've sheathed it (verticle boards, just took the battens off the mill..I'm on union break..) got the
1st and 2nd story floors in and finished..drying now, new roof up (THAT sucked.) new doors built and on, and I am getting ready to start the trim and battens here in a few minutes ans soon as my BBQ beenie weenies settle a bit...

My wife and neighbors are blown away..and I'm pretty tickled...it's a great satisfaction to me to have rescued a 100 year old structure without the aid of modern lumber industry..(besides, all the boards fit) and knowing where the trees stood that are in the building now...all within five miles of home..no stolen Russian timber or suchlike...

I luvs my Woodmizer.

Still want an LT-40 tho'...
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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2008, 06:50:54 pm »
The neighbors high school senior scooted over today and asked if he could help me out...sure thing!
Can always use an off bearer...

So i taught him how to run the mill and load and set up a log to cut...taught him a little about how
to guesstimate how much lumber would come out of the log..didn't go into Doyle or Scribners..just
direct estimate with the bd ft scale on a framing square..he got interested in the square and what kind of stuff could be done with it...so I showed him some of the basics..(Thank you Jim Rodgers!)

then I let him bust up a log...wanna talk about a happy teenager..we cut out all the battens and some trim boards for the smokehouse, and he stuck around and helped me batten three sides of it..

Good kid too..he's not one of the ones out causing trouble somewhere...
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Re: Finally doing something with wood I've milled.
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2008, 05:33:11 am »
Morning all. Can't have to much air. Trenched the service under ground to keep from hanging it. While the trench was open dropped 350# pvc 3/4" for water, 1" for air and 1" conduit for close circuit monitoring. The lines leave the shop and go to the mill, the tractor shed then to the yard shed and finally to the site for the new garage. Various size air tanks and check valves at each location. Should of done it 29 years ago. Chuck
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