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Maineloggerkid
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Re: Norway Pine??
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November 15, 2008, 11:51:37 am »
If proplerly spaced, do you think that it would be wise, given market changes and such??
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November 15, 2008, 01:36:38 pm »
I can't see the aspen market disappearing. I'd be more worried about browse and girdling by the wildlife.
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November 15, 2008, 01:38:29 pm »
I have a little protection plan against such intruders.
30-06 and a freezer.
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November 15, 2008, 02:18:04 pm »
What time's din din....Cheyenne
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November 15, 2008, 03:00:39 pm »
whenever you heat up the griddle.
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November 15, 2008, 03:58:25 pm »
My native 'cousins' were here this Thursday to harvest a calf moose in the field. I told them to harvest all they want.
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November 15, 2008, 08:45:44 pm »
Have you considered Christmas trees. Fast growing, less work & good money as I understand it. I have a friend who grows them & he says his bankers love it because there is no fluxuation in the market it only goes higher......Cheyenne
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November 15, 2008, 09:16:28 pm »
Christmas trees suck... lots of work trimming them. I trimmed trees one summer-- one summer only. Thats the other problem , there is a christmas tree farm that is only 10 miles away that has been established for 30 years.
Did you no that you can get a really serious cut from those tree trimming knifes???
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November 15, 2008, 09:56:37 pm »
Is that like getting knocked on my butt when the log flew out of the splitter today....Cheyenne
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November 15, 2008, 10:26:43 pm »
probably similiar.
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November 16, 2008, 07:06:24 am »
Christmas trees are not so rosy as some might suggest. And it's a hell of a lot of work. The markets are always in fluctuation. Doesn't matter about price, when you can't sell the volume you have ready. This year is a very bad year for Christmas tree growers. The Maritimes and Quebec are about the only provinces that export Christmas trees. Provinces west of there import most of their trees. I've seen a lot of dreamers here that planted the trees and that was the end of it. Some of them at the time when the government was giving out trees and lending the planters worked up a scheme to get reforestation done for free. The regular silviculture program had a cost. Always some one to figure a way around the system, even when it was only going to cost 10% of the total.
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November 16, 2008, 01:24:40 pm »
As per earlier conversations, as long as the site has the capacity I would believe that norway spruce would reach harvestable porportions but not in the pole size in girth. It is a fast growing species as previously mentioned, usally topping out at a metre/year. I know irving has done some plantation experiments with it, the only problem that with it growing so fast it is not as structural sound as a slower growing species such as red or white spruce. It also has a much higher water content, that is associated with its fast growing characteristics.. It all depends on what your goals are for this site. Poplar grows quick but is almost soley limited to pulp although some people find it acceptable for lumber in a none load bearing use. Eastern red pine (pinus resinosa) which is also used considerably for poles is a moderate fast grower on a good site, and with the conditions described your probably looking at a nice loam or sand based soil...Again it all depends no what you want or are looking for, hope this helps
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