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Aging cedar?
« on: September 15, 2008, 02:11:26 pm »
I have fresh sawn red cedar and a customer who wants weathered grey looking red cedar... Anybody know of any tricks to get the grey look in a hurry...like two or three days?

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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 02:21:50 pm »
Grey spray paint?  :D Sorry couldn't resist. Also no help with answer. Sorry.

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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 09:35:30 pm »
Get some off an old barn  :D.

I guess leaving them in the sun would be the fastest way?

Grey stain?
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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 11:46:30 pm »
Armstong and Penifin both make an exterior transparent stain that gives this look. I think that the color is weatherwood. I'm sure other maufacturers make a color similar,but these are two I know of.

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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 11:04:58 am »
I have fresh sawn red cedar and a customer who wants weathered grey looking red cedar... Anybody know of any tricks to get the grey look in a hurry...like two or three days?

Might take a look, if you already haven't, at this FF thread.

http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,32257.0.html

Also, I'd look into a semi-transparent stain as solodan mentioned...doing some test boards to verify the affect you want.
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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 01:27:21 pm »


  Vinegar and steel wool turns ERC black.
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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2008, 07:11:29 am »
Don't know this for a fact, but ask at the big lumber yards for the chemical that ages wood to grey.  It is used for poplar on log cabins to get a grey look.  Don't even know what it is called but there is a chemical out there that will do what you want.
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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 08:35:35 pm »
I thought it was eastern white cedar that ages to grey near the ocean.............
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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2008, 09:06:49 pm »


  Vinegar and steel wool turns ERC black.

How black . . . it looks good black, or it looks like heck black?
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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 03:34:24 am »
I made a belt buckle out of some cedar driftwood I picked up in Louisiana. I guess the salt reacted with the finish I put on it. part of it turned black and the rest turned a rich red almost like sherry. With several coats to give it depth I really like the colors. as far as ther viniger and steel, I can't say, never done that. You can use that to ebonize just about any wood so I have read in the wood working mags.
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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 11:13:33 am »
I had always heard that iron and vinegar (as a catalyst) turned hardwoods, like oak, black because the iron combined with the tannic acid and formed iron tannate, which is black.   I've never heard of using it on softwoods.  This is interesing.
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Re: Aging cedar?
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 05:01:38 pm »
I thought it was eastern white cedar that ages to grey near the ocean.............

All wood will turn grey if you leave it outside for a while...

The chemical that Cedarman referred to is probably ferrous sulphate.  It's commonly used to turn log cabins a weathered gray very quickly.  I don't know how it works on cedar, but it works on pine, spruce, fir, poplar, and surely many others.  A chemical stain will look more natural than a dye or pigment-based stain.
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 07:30:31 am »
Thank you Dodgy for the name of the stuff, ferrous sulphate.  I get a few inquiries a year about that same thing and knew it could be done, but not the stuff's name that did it.  You'll make me look a little better in my customer's eyes now.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2008, 12:29:43 pm »

   I guess I need to find a few bottles and keep them handy because I get calls for grey siding all the time.  They want a new house to look really old.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 09:59:34 pm »

  They want a new house to look really old.

Does anybody know of a chemical that will make a really old house look like new. :P
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2008, 02:34:47 am »
I don't know what the chemical is Bob, but it is some sort of green dye most offten used by the mint.
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2008, 11:11:26 am »


   Deck wash and a pressure washer with some elbow grease.
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2008, 11:13:35 am »
Yeah, but isn't elbow grease one of the most difficult chemicals to find ;D ;D
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2008, 08:20:23 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2008, 10:29:02 am »
Yeah, but isn't elbow grease one of the most difficult chemicals to find ;D ;D

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