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Offline headek

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Can you ID this tree ?
« on: September 03, 2008, 07:09:20 am »
Hi there !!(sorry i'm french and i don't speak english very well).

I think it's a tree of California but i'm not sure
Sorry for the bad resolution of the picture.
And it's the only picture i have.

Thank you very much  ::)

 






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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 08:04:54 am »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum headek. :)

Since we don't allow off large or off site photos to be posted (they must be placed in your forestry forum gallery)  I downloaded the photo and tried to optimize and crop some significant parts and posted those for you so the members could help identify the tree.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 08:11:46 am »
Thanks Jeff.

Like my english is very limited,i 'dont read the FAQ and the explaination for the storage of the pictures.....sorry.

Well, have you got an idéa of what tree is it?   

It's very important for me.

thank you in advance  ::)

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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 09:38:03 am »
Looks to be the 'horizontalis' variety... ::) ::)   ;D ;D

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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 09:52:51 am »
Thanks beenthere .

Horizontalis with lots of trees, no?

I thought a cypress at the beginning, but I would like a confirmation or a contradiction. ::)

I'll try to post the original (not cut) with another tree nearby, that I did not because we do not see well.

Sorry again for the quality of the picture and is the only one I have.

Thanks.

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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 10:26:20 am »
Sorry i have a probleme with my picture,the size is too bigger than the limit and when i rezise,it's very little... ???

There is the link if you can help me.

Thanks
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http://nsa02.casimages.com/img/2008/09/03/080903045742230717.jpg


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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 11:08:30 am »
I would not be surprised if it was from the genus Cupressus.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 12:30:02 pm »
I see Dodgy looking at this earlier, we must have stumped him as he didnt even try. ;)
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 12:48:39 pm »
   
I did not understand what you mean, I just want to have an opinion and identification.
If you do not want, I do not force a help.

There is no doubt in my research, I just need to correctly identify this tree.

That is all.

Sorry for the mistakes ...

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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2008, 02:55:57 pm »
Is that European larch?  I've only ever seen American larch/tamarack and that kinda looks close, but I'm not sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larix_decidua

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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2008, 03:16:26 pm »
I see Dodgy looking at this earlier, we must have stumped him as he didnt even try. ;)

Hey, I just needed some time to think it over... ;D

That's not a tree I'm familiar with, but if I had to guess, I would suggest tamarisk.  I don't think it's a larch or a cypress.
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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2008, 06:46:39 pm »
Quote from: Jeff
I see Dodgy looking at this earlier, we must have stumped him as he didnt even try.

 ::) Very sorry,i don't understand that Dodgywas a member,but like i traduce with an automatic translate,it's not very accurate....Traduction word to word.

Ok,
Quote from: Thedeeredude
Is that European larch?  I've only ever seen American larch/tamarack and that kinda looks close, but I'm not sure.

This pictures was taked in California (maybe  ::) )but not in Europe i'm sure.
If i compare the Tamarack,it's look like but I have the impression the "leaves" are more sharply...no ? Maybe i'm wrong,of course.
I can not find photos in the same thing... :-\

Quote from: Dodgy Loner
That's not a tree I'm familiar with, but if I had to guess, I would suggest tamarisk.  I don't think it's a larch or a cypress.

Maybe you're right,not a cypress,but can you see the "fruit" on this picture


Tamarisk and Tamarck is have that "fruit" (cone) ?

Thanks you 2 for the answers  ;)




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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2008, 07:14:23 pm »
I do not believe they are Tamarack or Larch. For one thing both those species lose their needles every fall and grow new in the spring. Here is a picture of some Tamarack here in the fall as their needles are turning.

 



Also, I don't believe that either Tamarack or Larch have fruits.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2008, 07:21:33 pm »
Hi Gary_C ,and thanks for your answer.

You're right,and it's important to speak about the season.

This picture was taken in June 2007 the end of spring.

Maybe making a report with the season and fruit ?

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Re: Can you ID this tree ?
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2008, 07:37:40 pm »
In the early spring the Tamarack and Larch will have what I would describe as flourescent lime green needles that will darken to dark green in late spring and into summer. In the fall, most people miss the beautiful color show with the Tamarack as the needles will turn to bright yellow, then orange, and then brown usually after the Aspen, Birch, Maple, and Oak leaves are on the ground.

I have not seen any fruit on Tamarack trees, but I am not sure if they ever have fruit. Most Tamarack that I see are growing in swamp areas and I do not go there in the spring.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2008, 04:26:18 am »
Thank you very much Gary_C for these details, so of you,it's not a Tamarack and not a larch ?

That's it ?

Sorry i'll try to do my best to understand the english,it's a little difficult,but i'll try  :)

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2008, 07:11:15 am »
Here is a post I made with pictures from over 5 years ago.
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,4497.0.html

There are some company plantings in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan of European Larch. I took some photos in the fall of the year. They look like they may very well have the same form.
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2008, 08:47:06 am »
Thanks Jeff !

Larchs have thorns and it seems that it has small leaves with "balls" at the end.

smalls images processing to compare   :

http://nsa02.casimages.com/img/2008/09/04/080904034655864043.png

http://nsa02.casimages.com/img/2008/09/04/08090403473673007.png

What do you think ?

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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2008, 09:43:49 am »
Those look like deciduous leaves. Not needles. Are they leaves?  Any Larch would have needles. With that extreme closeup I dont think its a larch now.
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2008, 05:16:32 am »
Well,I do not know what to think, but the caduciuous leaves will be appear by illusion and shadows.

I would like to have your opinion on this comparison,please:(the crow is not important ^^)

http://nsa02.casimages.com/img/2008/09/10/080910125412580585.jpg

the original picture was here:

http://nsa02.casimages.com/img/2008/09/10/080910121828362709.jpg

I find that the fruits are very similar, and the photo was taken in the same region, the same month, but a year of difference.

If you think that the same tree,can you ID this please.

I become crazy with this tree ^^

Thanks Headek

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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2008, 03:47:53 pm »
The cones appear to be cypress-like or juniper-like. Since they look round (not oblong) and under an inch in diameter. The tree doesn't fit yellow cypress, not a true cypress. Yellow cypress is more of a NW coast mountain tree, cones are even smaller than in that picture. I only saw them grow up in the mountains when I was as far north as BC. Cones of larch or tamarak are not typically on branch tips like that. They are on at least two year old shoots. Where is the tree located? And how tall is the tree. Some juniper species, including the California juniper, are shrub-like.

Don't know anything much about redwood or sequoia, but cones look similar at a distance. Not familiar with branching and form.

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2008, 09:23:58 am »
Im taking a dendrology course at Paul Smiths College, and i wouldn't surprise me if it was some form of larch....european larch maybe???
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