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Author Topic: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year... (solved: Shumard oak)  (Read 2571 times)

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This oak (in the red oak family) seems to make a good nut crop every year - including last year.  But this year looks to be a super bumper crop.

I don't know that I have ever seen acorns this thick, and these pictures are from lower limbs that are less than 10 feet off the ground.  I can only guess what some of the upper limbs may look like.

Also, it helps that this tree is in a place where the squirrels and other vermin do not harass them.

Any guesses as to what kind of oak this is?  (I cannot hide the leaves so that makes it a little easier)

(WDH and Dodgy Loner should just drop hints and not answer)  :)














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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2008, 11:10:57 pm »
Tricky.  I'm leaving it and giving you an A for effort. ;)

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2008, 11:14:18 pm »
Thanks.   ;D

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 11:17:49 pm »
I can appreciate its use in this instance, that's for sure. First complaint though and I'll have to code in a
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 11:21:15 pm »
Hmmm  wouldn't be a Turkey Oak way up there, would it?
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008, 11:22:05 pm »
I can appreciate its use in this instance, that's for sure. First complaint though and I'll have to code in a
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 11:24:09 pm »
Hmmm  wouldn't be a Turkey Oak way up there, would it?

Nope, not a turkey oak.

I should have mentioned that the acorns are still developing.  They have a good 6 weeks of "filling out" left to go.

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 11:39:20 pm »
might be a cherry bark then.  those acorns look like 500 to the lb types and I'm running out of something with deep sinus' like that.
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2008, 11:44:37 pm »
might be a cherry bark then.  those acorns look like 500 to the lb types and I'm running out of something with deep sinus' like that.

You are on track.  Red oak family, deep sinuses, ranging into southern areas.

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2008, 11:58:50 pm »
Sure looks like a pin oak to me. Did not know they went that far south.

Also have never seen that many acorns or whatever on a tree.  :D :D
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 12:03:57 am »
I didn't think the leaves looked like a pin oak, but you might be right.  I was going to make another WAG at Scarlet Oak.  I don't know what the concentric ring nomenclature is all about on the acorn tip though.
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 12:27:49 am »
If the leaves are smooth, might make it Scarlet oak, like Tom says.

Pin oak leaves are "hairy".

Nice pics, regardless.

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2008, 07:36:54 am »
Ya'll are hitting all around it, but no.

Not a pin oak.

Not a scarlet oak.

Not a cherrybark oak.

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2008, 09:15:41 am »
Good Picture, Beenthere.

You been drinking the water up there, Lanier Lurker? :D

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2008, 09:21:23 am »
Ain't much water to drink up here.... :(

I will tell you that this is not one of the obscure species like Oglethorpe or Georgia oak.

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2008, 09:39:54 am »
.......or Shumard?  :D

I 'spec you have to chew the lake to get anything out of it.

I've been tempted to take my metal detector with me to visit a friend in Nicholsen.  No telling what kinds of little treasures can be found laying in the silt off of the end of those high and dry docks.
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2008, 09:45:04 am »
It looks like a plain old Red oak to me.  Or at least that's what I'm used to as Red oak.

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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2008, 11:58:03 am »
I give up. You would have trouble selling that as anything other than a pin oak around here. I see a lot of those pin oaks mixed in with the quercus rubra here and the instant I saw those pictures I though it was pin oak.

Did not know there was any other tree in the red oak family that had leaves any where near those.
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2008, 12:46:27 pm »
Well then, If its not Pin Oak my guess would be Shumard which is a red oak growing in your region.
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Re: And I thought they made a big nut crop last year...
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2008, 02:10:45 pm »
I'de say southern red oak Q. falcata

Not a whole lot different that pin oak though, but I think pin has a smaller cap. But it doesn't range into Georgia.

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