E-Classic 2300 is now up and running in Central Mass

[JSNH]

Flat plate size. Somewhere I have the specs for it. I figured what I needed and added 30% to the size I think. I will look around to see if I can find it but I was looking for 100K btu exchange and picked up the 70 plate. From what you said 3 rooms on a antifreeze loop I would go for a 50 plate from a WAG wild As_ed Guess on may part. For domestic hot water I have a side arm heat exchanger on a 50 gal electric with a automatic tempering valve set at 135 degrees. It works great never run out of hot water. I burn little wood for hot water. A garden way large cart of green pine edgings from the edger is enough for our family of 5 for 3 or 4 days.

[whodoctor]

Due to the advertised efficiency of this stove, I am anticipating a 2x per day fill.  I have been told that this is the expected fill during the coldest parts of winter in the 6048 as well.  Is this the case in anyone else's experience?

[bull]

I really don't like the idea of going out in the cold,to load up the furnace to keep warm !!!

5 cords of wood in the cellar for the house and 3 cord in the barn for the shop !! only time I have to feel the cold is when I walk from the house to the barn to work...

[whodoctor]

....are you from Florida or something?  Just kidding.  Nobody LIKES the cold, but I guess its a matter of how much you dislike it.  Twice a day doesn't seem like a problem to me.  I am just happy not to burn oil.

[thecfarm]

I would much rather go outside to fill my OWF,than bring wood into the unheated garage,has to be split smaller,pile it up,about ½ cord at a time,carry 1-2 arm full of wood into the house,sweep the floor,haul out the ashes.Even when it's snowing,it's all worth it and than some.My garage is heated now due to the OWF.I only wish I would of done it sooner.

[whodoctor]

Does anyone have a lead on cords of hardwood, cut 24-30".  Rounds, and reasonable sized splits?  I am looking for a couple more.  I want to ensure that I have enough until I am certain how much I am going to use in an average year. 

[icedflame]

Just joined this forum as I need a little info, probably from whodoctor. I am getting my e-classic next month and am in the process of setting up pad and such. I am not getting much info from dealer as far as specs. You say you buried your thermopex 8-12 in. Did you use 1 1/4? I was told I would have to go down about 4 ft in order to get the radius for the turn up in the inset portion of the slab. Did you bury under the slab, looked like it in the pics? Does all the electric (you stated you used 2 separate lines in- also why) and gas come up in to connect at the cutout in back of the unit? I called my dealer and asked for the manual but CB would not send out ahead of the furnace. They do not want to give out much info it seems, even though I paid 1/2 down for the deposit.   

[thecfarm]

icedflame,welcome to the forum.
I only buried my lines about 18 inches,but when I came to where they had to be hooked onto the furnace I went down about 3 feet or so.Need the room to make an arc with the pipes.I had my installed.They used 1 inch lines.Kept me nice and warm.I did all of the dumb work and 2 guys did the rest.Good luck.

[whodoctor]

Icedflame,

I used 1" lines, buried 8-12 inches in the ground for 100 or so feet, including under the slab.  I had no trouble bending the thermopex to a workable angle.  You could bury it deeper if you wanted to but I didn't find it necessary.

I installed two lines because I am building a barn/wood shed over and around the E-classic.  I want to have a whole-house fan above the stove door to suck out the smoke when filling the stove, and I want to have lights and a beer fridge in there too.

The electric, gas, and pex lines all come up into the same area.

They wouldn't give me the manual before hand either.

[needful]

Hi everybody,
i just joined this forum and i am so happy for all the info on the E-classic 2300.
I will get mine in a couple of weeks and i can't wait to say goodbye to oil. I live in the Yukon, Canada near Whitehorse and the temperatures can be pretty low - 40 and more for a month or more at times.
I heat about 7000 square feet in two buildings and we will see how the boiler performs with those temperatures. The oil fired system i have right now is one of the best one can get (Viessmann Vitola 200) but, i am using 6500 liters of oil every year. (Sorry, for you guys this will be about 1810 Gallons.) $ 1.30 a liter = $ 8450.00 thats just insane.
I dug the trench, got all the lines in and the power, all i have to do install the boiler and the plate heat exchanger. I hope i can give everybody an update in a few weeks.
Cheers

[LKasdorf]

I am ordering my 2300 tomorrow. Probably won't show up until Early December tho. I have a fair amount of work to ready for it anyway- I'm going to build a shed for wood and access to the furnace.

I researched every brand of gasification boiler and ended up going with the 2300. The runners up were Tarm and Alternative Heating. I also looked at Greenwood. I like the larger firebox of the 2300 as compared to the others. Larger pieces of wood means less work.

I was not even considering an old tech outdoor wood furnace because of the smoke. I really like the idea of the higher temp burn yielding better efficiency and lower emissions.

I currently have propane fired hydronic heat. Tying this one in should be no problem.

My only concern with the 2300 is the fancy electronics. If I can do so reasonably, I plan to run the eletronics off of a small UPS (like for a computer). This provides complete isolation from the power line and associated lightning spikes.

[LKasdorf]

I am ordering my 2300 tomorrow. Probably won't show up until Early December tho. I have a fair amount of work to ready for it anyway- I'm going to build a shed for wood and access to the furnace.

I researched every brand of gasification boiler and ended up going with the 2300. The runners up were Tarm and Alternative Heating. I also looked at Greenwood. I like the larger firebox of the 2300 as compared to the others. Larger pieces of wood means less work.

I was not even considering an old tech outdoor wood furnace because of the smoke. I really like the idea of the higher temp burn yielding better efficiency and lower emissions.

I currently have propane fired hydronic heat. Tying this one in should be no problem.

My only concern with the 2300 is the fancy electronics. If I can do so reasonably, I plan to run the eletronics off of a small UPS (like for a computer). This provides complete isolation from the power line and associated lightning spikes.

I have temporarily (at least) held off on buying this. It is looking like for the same money, or less (after the federal tax incentives) I'll be able to do a thermal solar system. After it has paid for itself- totally free heat with no effort and no emissions. So, if I can do this for a similar price, it is clearly the way to go. And for the $13k the 2300 system would cost me, I can almost certainly do so. We'll see.

[JohnBoy]

Hi:  What do you guys think of the Sequoyah E3400.  It looks good.  It has a lot of fire brick in the secondary burn area.  Anyone seen one?

Has anyone researched it?

  http://www.wdheat.com/Gasification%20E3400.htm

[jocko]

After putting down a deposit on an E-2300,  I have been spending my time trying to get my permits. 

I had no idea the opposition to OWF's.  There is a guy in my township who is against them and is lobbying to ban them.  He has been successful in getting the 3 in his area shut down.  The ordinace is 3 minutes of smoke per 30 minutes operating.  I am simpathetic to him somewhat - because he's in a neighborhood with 1 acre lots.  Where I live,  theres more space (4 acres)

I am hoping with the E-Classic -  I won't have any problem.  The ones he is complaining about are old school OWF's.  First fine is $ 300 and second fine $ 2000.  I can't believe they can do that.  But they've used this to shut these guys down.  I fear they'll come after me after mines installed.

STILL,  they are considering not issuing permits until the STATE rules on OWF's - which could be after the winter.  If this happens,   I am not sure what I will do.  I don't think the dealer will give back my deposit.   I have also been looking into ordering my heat exchangers for my forced air system and because the duct work is small,  it will only take a smaller heat exchanger and there is concern it won't effectively heat my house. 

If I get a green light from the township -  I will move forward.

[thecfarm]

JohnBoy,I have never seen one but from that website it does sound good.But like I say,they can make anything sound good.Price is right up there,but if it does work better than the other I guess the $2-3000 more is worth it.
jocko,update your profile so we know where you are from.I've been reading NY  been having a fit about them.Been a few problems here in Maine too.But I know of one right in town,owned by a small business and I've never seen that thing smoke alot.I feel it depends alot on how well you dry your wood and what kind it is.

[jocko]

Well,  looks like the Township is sitting on my permits.  Still waiting for approval.

To further my misery,  the estimate from the plumber including parts is over $ 6000.  That brings the total to over $ 18,000. 

That's just rediculous and far more than I was led to believe.  I just can't do that.   I could probably do most of the install myself. 

Nothing is ever easy.

[thecfarm]

jocko,before I say anything,like that's outrageous,what are you going to heat with your furnace? I had a lot done with mine and my parts came in at $3600.Which was bad enough.

[Wood4Heat]

Hi there Whodoctor,

        We live here in Alaska and have been running a Central boiler for 2 1/2 yrs. We just upgraded to the E-classic. We wanted to just get a bigger model, but our dealer talked us into this e-classic 2300. We were not told anything about it and were puzzled on how to keep the fire going in it when we first hooked it up. We called our dealer and he said he didn't know, so I got on the computer and googled about the boiler and found this website. Thanks to your forum here we were able to fix our problem. The only other problem is getting the smaller sized wood into the boiler. Our trees here are mostly 8inch-12inch round. I do not wish to split all my wood! I sure miss my old boiler,where I could just throw in a huge 2ft by 4ft log. and let it burn for days! this model you have to chop up your wood just to get a fire going. We are going to trade for a different model, due to this. This model is great for someone who has the time and strength to split wood. Plus how efficient can it be when these fans are pulsating every so often, what about your electric bill! I know we took care of the gas bill but now we are neglecting our electric bill, and it is going to rise now! And unless your a computer wiz watch out! the computer in this thing is complicated! one wrong push of a button and your out in the cold!!  I'm really disappointed in this model for a few reasons. I'm happy some of you enjoy yours, good luck. Thanks Wood4Heat

[whodoctor]

Wood4heat,

The CB dealer sent me a cheat sheet on programming the stove, and I found it SUPER easy to do.    My electric bill did not even go up a little.  You can run the furnace on a 12 volt battery.  Whether or not you are happy is none of my business.  Your desire to put larger chunks of wood in are certainly understandable.  Good luck with whatever you go with next.

[MyOutdoors]

Woodheat,take a look at the Sequoya E3300/3400 EPA boilers.  The seem to run on simplicity and have the 24x24 door opening and except a 30-44" log depending on the model.  I ordered mine and hope to get it in November...can't wait!