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Offline Fla._Deadheader

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UN to Have Say
« on: June 05, 2008, 07:52:12 am »
  UN summit: corn on table or in tank?


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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 12:12:21 am »
The UN has no place in this race .  We have given them so much surplus corn and they cannot get it to the people that need it .  The UN tends to dump it at the dictators stoop and leave . 
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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 08:42:44 am »
The UN has no place in this race .  We have given them so much surplus corn and they cannot get it to the people that need it .  The UN tends to dump it at the dictators stoop and leave . 
un??? the most worthless despot org ever--nuts with them---when pat buchanan ran for pres--said the first thing hed do after elected was  to send all the despots back to where they come from, and blow that bldg to the ground--sounded like a good plan to me----

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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 04:14:16 pm »
SCREW THE U.N. !!!!!


They are'nt our elected officials. We don't need to answer to these creeps. U.N. represents governments that are dictatorships, communist and civil rights violators. I have no respect for their hypocracy and corruption. We have enough of that in Washington. I'm all for tearing down that U.N. building and getting away from that organized criminal empire.

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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 12:30:09 am »
  I heard pres Bush say something about an organiztions of democracies the other day.  Maybe the big shots are thinking about getting rid of the UN american organization too.
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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 08:50:07 am »
 :P  The UN isn't an American oranization.  :) ???
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 12:47:25 pm »
Read an article recently where the UN wants the U.S. and other members to contribute .7% of their nations gross national product to this organization for "so called" humanitarian aid. An interview with Barak Obama recently had him saying he supported this and he thought "it was the right thing to do". God help us.  Remember the oil for food scandal?
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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 02:54:38 pm »
hmmm....I always thought we were fighting Nazism/Fascism in WWII.  Those far RIGHT organizations which spouted nationalism to the extreme.  Didn't realize we were fighting communism/Marxism.  Pretty sure we were allies with those guys in 42....

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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 03:53:04 pm »
i am not gonna argue about what we were fighting for or who we were fighting with in 42.
i will say that i aggree with the UN being a worthless group as a whole. the US does not need anyone outside telling them how to conduct business on our soil.
i hear all the time how the UN wants global gun control, of course they do.
i have no use for a politician that aggrees with the UN too.
not too sure i have a use for a politician that opposes the UN ;D

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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 04:15:17 pm »
Whether it is Nazism/Fascism or Communism/Marxism. They are both worthless entities. The UN represents all of them. It is a waste of tax dollars cozying up to any of it. It's bad enough we're trading with China. What a slap in the face to those who died fighting against communism all these years. That's all I'm gonna say about that.

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You have to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. I stand for freedom and Capitalism. 8) 8) Those elitist in the UN certainly don't. ;) ;)
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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2008, 10:33:51 am »
The UN serves a purpose for communicating when diplomatic channels are otherwise closed.
It is important that the countries of the world have these channels or diplomacy is near impossible.
I know we do not like others telling us what to do - We sure don't have a problem with telling the rest of the world what they should do  :D

Look around, The US is part of the global community.  It does not serve the country well to attempt to use force to get our way.  Diplomacy pays far greater dividends.

Yes, the UN can seem frustrating at times but to not have such an organization would be much more frustrating and a lot more dangerous.
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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2008, 10:52:12 am »
I'm certainly no supporter of the UN, but I've come to realize that we are citizens of a sovreign nation, but we are not subjects under the UN (regardless of what Europe would like us to believe).  If we like what they are doing, our administration normally goes along with it, if we don't like it, we don't go along with it. 

All in all, we are in a position to pick and choose what we want to abide by with the UN. 

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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2008, 11:04:04 am »
you can't spell unamerican without UN...

I got a strongly worded letter from the UN last week as well as a parking ticket from Ivor VA....I paid the parking ticket.

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2008, 01:52:12 pm »
As far as diplomacy is concerned, we have embassys in virtually every country we have relations with. Diplomacy is conducted through those channels. We are the most generous nation on the planet. When an eartquake, tsunami, or any other disaster occurs, we are are usually the first ones to offer ground  and financial support. Heck, we helped Iran a few short years back when they had that big earthquake. We did'nt need the UN to accomplish that mission. We don't need UN for actions of diplomacy. We give millions of dollars a year to this elitist, corrupt organization. This is money that could be used to help those that are in need, not to those that are into greed.  We used to belong to a similar organization called The League of Nations years ago and it collapsed due to corruption and inability to get anything done. Hopefully history will repeat itself, it usually always does.

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2008, 04:59:28 pm »
As far as diplomacy is concerned, we have embassys in virtually every country we have relations with. Diplomacy is conducted through those channels. We are the most generous nation on the planet. When an eartquake, tsunami, or any other disaster occurs, we are are usually the first ones to offer ground  and financial support. Heck, we helped Iran a few short years back when they had that big earthquake. We did'nt need the UN to accomplish that mission. We don't need UN for actions of diplomacy. We give millions of dollars a year to this elitist, corrupt organization. This is money that could be used to help those that are in need, not to those that are into greed.  We used to belong to a similar organization called The League of Nations years ago and it collapsed due to corruption and inability to get anything done. Hopefully history will repeat itself, it usually always does.


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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2008, 05:34:48 pm »
I doubt muslim extremists would attack the same building that houses those that support them and their cause
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2008, 08:40:46 pm »

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tomorrow morning wouldnt be soon enough--maybe the muslims that blew the twin towers--will make a mistake, and hit the un bldg--------------------

I don't like that thought at all... any life is more important than that.
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2008, 08:58:29 pm »

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tomorrow morning wouldnt be soon enough--maybe the muslims that blew the twin towers--will make a mistake, and hit the un bldg--------------------

I don't like that thought at all... any life is more important than that.

I must agree...despite my general agreement with the Bard..
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Re: UN to Have Say
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2008, 07:41:41 am »
Actually we do not have embassies in the countries we most need to keep some open channel of communication with.  Iran and N. Korea come to mind.  This is why being able to use th UN as a diplomatic channel is so important.  The reps at the UN can and do talk directly to one another without the need to filter through some country that has official relations with countries we do not.

There are bad players in every organization.  Why let them win the day by turning our back on the promise of dialogue.  We have nothing to loose by continuing our support of the UN and much to loose if such an organization did not exist.  The world is suffering from a clash of ideologies.  Those differences are best aired in a neutral environment with open dialogue.  Minds are never opened by war, but deep seated hatreds are definately spawned when one power attempts to force its ideology on another.  It is the controlling by force that gives rise to and nourishes insurgency. 

The promise of the United States lies not in its military prowess or 'my way or the highway' bravado.  The promise of this great country is manifested in leading by example.  We should utilize the UN to set a good example and lead accordingly.  Despots are seen to be despots only when there is something of recognized good to compare them to.
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2008, 01:50:39 pm »

  The UN is a waste of time and money.  Their "Millennium Goals"  Is a good one.  They want to end poverty by 2015.  Take from the rich countrys and give it to the poor.  I can see the Shiek of some Arab country driving the same car as me or leaving his large mansion to move into the mobile home next door.   Treating all genders the same.  Yep I can see the Muslim guys taking that one to heart and embracing it.  How come the mighty UN does not do something about Dunfar in the Sudan or what ever it is where the ones are killing the others and the UN is feeding the countrys with the free food we give them.
  You know we was doing pretty good till we stepped into WWII and thought we had to save the World.  There was a time when the USA minded it own business for the most part.  Since we kicked the Brits out and settled our own affairs we was doing pretty good.
  Some times you have to let other peoples settle their own affairs.  We do not like folks a messing with us. 
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