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Offline SawTroll

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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2008, 04:30:18 pm »
Quote from: NYH1 on June 27, 2008, 01:42:52 pm
SawTroll recommended that I go with the H21 (regular .325) chain over the H30 (.325 Pixel) chain on my NE 346XP.  When I bought my saw I asked my dealer if I could get it set up that way.  He said that the set up I wanted was actually what he would recommend on the NE 346XP.  He said the regular .325 chain seems to work better on the NE 346XP then the .325 pixel does because of the power increase.  He said on the 353, old 346XP and smaller saws the .325 pixel works better. 

I've never ran the H30 chain so all I could do was take their advice.  I've talked to a few other guys that have used both set ups and they agree with what SawTroll and my dealer told me.  I ended up going with a 16" bar and H21 .325/.058 chain.

Just my $0.02!

Your dealer is right, as far as I know...... :) ;)
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2008, 09:10:50 am »
Picked up my new 346xp yesterday and quess what ?? its a NON-EPA !!!!! I was real happy and surprised to see it come through that way . I took it right to the wood pile and tried it out !! The first thing that really stood out was how smooth it is , no vibration , next was how fast it cuts , so effortless , just buzz's right through the logs !! The only negative thing I noticed was maybe because its so aggressive the chain stopped a couple times , I'm not sure if its a lack of power or my handling of the saw or because its trying to cut so much and so fast and also I'm not use to the teeth on the saw for biting into the wood maybe I'm pinching the chain. When the chain stops a little rocking motion seems to get it going again . Or if I kind of hold it back a little it seems fine . What might be happening is I am so use to applying pressure to my old homelites to get them to cut that I am doing the same with this saw and didn't even realize it , next time I will just let the weight of the saw do the work ,any ideas??
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2008, 10:23:25 am »
Quote from: chugbug on July 09, 2008, 09:10:50 am
. . . any ideas??

I'm pretty sure the best thing to do would be to send it me so I can compare how it stacks up to my 5100S. ;D
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2008, 11:00:00 am »
chugbug
Your experience is the similar to mine, when moving from a saw without antivibe (Stihl 041 '75) to my new saw (Stihl MS361 '04).

I was so used to the 'feel' of the chain cutting wood that the new saw didn't give me, that I felt I had to push to get that feeling. Then when I realized I was pushing too fast into the cut, things got better real fast. Took awhile to get used to not having that "feeling" in the hands and arms.

Also, check the rakers on the new chain. Mine came new with the rakers not well ground for the teeth. Found that out when taking the Game-of-Logging course, and the instructor was checking over everyone's saw. He was really looking for something to point out on mine, and it was the rakers not filed the same (nearly new chain).  Much smoother cutting when filed right using a guage.
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2008, 07:49:30 pm »
Nice try texas t. but I think I will hang onto it !! ;D , Beenthere I think you probably hit the nail right on the head , I haven't got out again but it must be in the way it feels so different , next time out I'll let the saw do the work, no pushing and I will check out the rizers also, I think I have a old gauge laying around if not I will pick up a new one , maybe someone could tell me if the chain I got is alright , its the chain that came with it , marked husky not sure who makes them and its marked 25 on the chain , how do I tell exactly what chain it is ???
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2008, 07:05:47 pm »
Quote from: chugbug on July 09, 2008, 09:10:50 am
The only negative thing I noticed was maybe because its so aggressive the chain stopped a couple times .....

That saw doesn't bog easily - it has a lot of torque for its size - what bar&chain set-up do you have?        ??? ::)
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2008, 07:54:21 pm »
Sawtroll , At times it does seem to bog , I wish I could tell you more about the chain so you could tell me what it is , all I can tell you is it came with the saw ( meaning it didn't sound like they cut one out of a roll ) it does say husqvarna on it and the number 25 , what other info could I get for you , probably hard to no without seeing it . Could it be a saftey chain ??
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2008, 09:08:00 pm »
chugbug, you have a PM.
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2008, 06:30:29 am »
Give it a few tanks of fuel, most saws wake up nice after 5 to 8 tanks.   Steve
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2008, 06:03:10 pm »
I asked the dealer today what chain he figured came with my NE 346xp and he said it was the oregon 33LG , does this sound right, if so they say its a good chain . Or is there something else out there thats better??
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2008, 11:06:08 am »
That is a chisel chain and a good choice for the 346.
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2008, 01:41:51 pm »
I thought the 33LG was replaced by the 20 series (20LP/21LP/22LP). Supposedly, the 20 series cuts faster than the 33LG chain: 6% faster bias cuts, 8% faster bucking cuts, 18% faster boring cuts (or so Oregon claims). I've not seen any 33LG at any of my local shops. Is there a reason to prefer one over the other?

Is 3/8 pitch chain too much for the NE346 (16" bar, cutting mainly hardwoods)?

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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2008, 02:02:09 pm »
The 33 is the same size as the 20 but has extra guard links to reduce kickback.
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2008, 09:35:23 pm »
Quote from: sawguy21 on July 20, 2008, 02:02:09 pm
The 33 is the same size as the 20 but has extra guard links to reduce kickback.
That would be 33SL wouldn`t it? The 33LG is like mini 3/8s LG, the LP has a large sloped guard link but it`s worlds better than the stuff with the huge guard link. BTW, the 33 is a vastly smaller tooth than the 20.

John,

Try some 20LP or Stihl RS before commiting to buying a new bar and sprocket in 3/8 pitch, you may be pleasantly surprised without spending too much money.
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2008, 09:40:50 am »
Quote from: John Mc on July 17, 2008, 01:41:51 pm
I thought the 33LG was replaced by the 20 series (20LP/21LP/22LP). Supposedly, the 20 series cuts faster than the 33LG chain: 6% faster bias cuts, 8% faster bucking cuts, 18% faster boring cuts (or so Oregon claims). I've not seen any 33LG at any of my local shops. Is there a reason to prefer one over the other?

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As far as I know, the 30-series has been discontionued, but may still be in the "pipe-line".
 They are low-profile chain, and takes a smaller file than the 20-series. Oregon recommends the 20LP as a faster replacement for the 33LG (I use .058 gauge 21LP so far on mine - and it works really well).

If the bar is .050, I would have liked to try Stihl 23RSC as well.
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Re: husky 346xp, stihl MS280 & 260
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2008, 09:43:01 am »
Quote from: jokers on July 21, 2008, 09:35:23 pm
Quote from: sawguy21 on July 20, 2008, 02:02:09 pm
The 33 is the same size as the 20 but has extra guard links to reduce kickback.
That would be 33SL wouldn`t it? The 33LG is like mini 3/8s LG, the LP has a large sloped guard link but it`s worlds better than the stuff with the huge guard link. BTW, the 33 is a vastly smaller tooth than the 20.

John,

Try some 20LP or Stihl RS before commiting to buying a new bar and sprocket in 3/8 pitch, you may be pleasantly surprised without spending too much money.

Totally agree (didn't see your post before posting).
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