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« on: May 16, 2008, 12:47:45 PM »

Here is a barky one for you.  Very typical bark for this tree at this stage of growth, about 12" in DBH.........

 

The ridges are just starting to crack open.
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 12:51:01 PM »

shagbark or locust
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 01:43:14 PM »

I believe that is hickory behind it so that is my guess, does look like some of the young locusts we have too.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 03:08:44 PM »

I have a lot of yellow poplar in my area that look like that.  Also, from what I can discern about the form of the tree from that section of trunk, it looks nice and straight with little taper.  This also could point to it being yellow poplar.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 08:07:05 PM »

Nope, nope, and nope.  All very good observations, but all wrong.  Here is a pic of the branching habit.  Also typical of this species.  No, not the pines!  It is the tree with the branches without leaves.....

 
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 08:24:36 PM »

sourwood or either ironwood

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 09:47:16 PM »

Definitely not ash. Perhaps hophornbeam?

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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 09:53:47 PM »

DonK, it is not sourwood or ironwood.

Ironwood, it is not ironwood Smiley.

This is a tough one.  The bark looks different on younger trees (about 30 years old and less).  This is a younger version.

This is a commercially harvested species, not one of the main ones, but not rare to see in lumber form.

Here is a hint:  As you progress up the tree, the bark smooths out some and has some little bumps on it.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 09:57:35 PM »

populus?


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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 10:12:09 PM »

 I ment the other Hornbeam, not Blue beech( American Hornbeam, Ironwood, Musclewood),  BUT Eastern Hophornbeam.


   I don't think Hop goes by "Ironwood"

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2008, 10:14:47 PM »

I'm sticking with poplar, just have to figure out which one I'm talking about.  Ya dats a good one!


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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 10:20:05 PM »

when I doubt, I call everything red oak (but bear in mind that I've not been formally trained!)
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 11:03:46 PM »

Can I assume this tree to be in Houston County?
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2008, 11:19:13 PM »

Not hophornbeam, not populous, not red oak, not anything mentioned.

I said it was a tough one.....

The pic was taken in Texas. 

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 11:22:12 PM »

Here is a pic of the branching habit.  Also typical of this species.

Looking at that pic, I'm going to have to guess blackgum (nyssa sylvatica)
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2008, 02:09:44 AM »

Black gum
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2008, 06:02:47 AM »

Is it flavoured with a hint of lime (tilia)?
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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2008, 10:24:37 PM »

Methinks the Englishman is onto something...
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2008, 10:34:48 PM »

Timburr!!  You are barking up the right tree Ya dats a good one!.

Way to go GrinTilia it is.  Good old basswood. 

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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2008, 11:23:05 PM »

DanG it...

I should have realized that after your emphasis on the splits in the bark.

I also should have learned better from this earlier post of mine.  Sad

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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2008, 11:39:16 PM »

LL,

That sure was a fun post, glad you brought it back up. 

I went to Dahlonega today and passed by one little arm of the lake off GA 400 except there weren't no lake, just a dry steambed Smiley.  I thought about you when I saw the sign.
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2008, 11:43:02 PM »

You are one up on me, Danny, don 't believe I have ever seen a basswood in Texas.
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2008, 10:05:30 AM »

I went to Dahlonega today and passed by one little arm of the lake off GA 400 except there weren't no lake, just a dry steambed Smiley.  I thought about you when I saw the sign.

Yep, you passed about a mile away from me there at exit 15.  The creek you mention is between exits 15 and 16.

Dahlonega is a pretty town.  I have a coworker who lives on the north side of town there and drives all the way to downtown Atlanta to work every day - about 40 more minutes on top of what I have to drive.

Dahlonega is also right on the edge of the transition from the upper piedmont to the mountains - which makes for an interesting mix of flora.
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2008, 12:22:16 PM »

You are one up on me, Danny, don 't believe I have ever seen a basswood in Texas.

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Yep, they are there in the Pineywoods.  This tree was in San Jacinto County.

LL,

I did not realize that I was so close to your place with all the cool trees.  I went to play Bluegrass music at the Mountain Festival this weekend for a friend who owns a wine tasting shop just south of town on Hwy 60.  It was a fun but grueling day.  Very pretty up there, but civilization is there in full force now.
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2008, 08:37:00 PM »

Yeah I guessed basswood with the branching pattern and bark. But my yard trees are not splitting in the bark yet, they are still smooth and gray like beech.  Ya dats a good one! Might be starting at the very base. The prominent bark breakage is from dang sap suckers.  Lips Sealed Angry
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