Using E85 In Your Sawmill

[Fla._Deadheader]

 Shoulda expanded on that statement, Merle. In using Biodiesel, the solvent effect from the lye and Methanol, cleans all the crap from the inside of the fuel tank and lines, in the vehicles. Probably getting the same thing from Ethanol. Didn't mean for that first part to sound like it did. 

[HORSELOGGER]

 Ethanol producers ( not farmers ) are given around 50 cents a gallon subsidy from the Govt. Sugar cane ethanol from Brazil is hit with a 50 cent per gallon tarrif to come in here. Without the Tarrif / subsidy, there would be very little if any ethanol produced from corn. I dont see it as a solution to the fuel cost problem, as some research showes it to be a net energy loss to produce the corn and convert it to ethanol.

If a sawmill could charge and get 400% more for the lumber they currently produce with out increasing their volume or capitol/labor investment...why wouldnt they? There is no incentive for the oil companies to do anything but take the money that is being thrown at them.   Why do more to make less?   The class action lawsuit in the name of US  citzens should , if anything, be against the US govt. How bout pokin some stinkin holes in the USA We need to see some serious leadership from congress on this issue.It is time to drill in Alaska, in my opinion.

I live right in the middle of Illinois corn and bean country. I drove by a farm 3 miles from me and saw the farmer chisel plowing up most of his house lawn that bordered his field. Lawn mowin dont pay like 6 buck corn.

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Real question now is they are not telling us they are putting ethanol in the E85, are they exceeding the 15% ethanol?   I am guessing they are putting more than 15%. 

E85 is 85% Ethanol. 15% is E15

[stonebroke]

In Albany NY you can get E85 for eighty to ninety cents cheaper than gas. Only one station handles it though.

Stonebroke

[sharp edge]

If you don't like the price of E- make your own. I keep thinking more about doing that all the time, as the price of gas keeps trying to get airborne.
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[olyman]

E85 will also do bad things to the valvetrain in your engine. Since it contains alcohol it burns hotter and will burn up your valves and seats. If your vehicle isnt set up for E85 its bad news!(quote)
 you have links, and reports from dyno and engine building places to prove this???  as dan shade said, and from racing cars--alcohol runs     COOLER   and carbs will frost over because of it--------

[flip]

If you plan on making E make sure it is E100 and for human consumption because it will cost you more to make than buy if you want to burn in a vehicle.

[GF]

My mistake instead of E85 I was referring to E10 (10% ethanol)l, I was thinking backwards when I submitted the topic. Sorry for the confusion, my mistake.  The E10 did not run very well in the sawmill, not sure if the 10% should make that much of a difference or if the fuel may have had more than the 10%. 

A majority of the stations that sell E85 in OKC area have the price set the same as regular gas.

[JSNH]

E10 thats what they put into the standard pumps in New Hampshire. No non alcohol fuel avalable in the normal channels.  My Still 361 rus the same on it. My Ford Freestyle millage dropped 10% from 22MPG to 20MPG. My 2004 Harley Road King with a carb has developed a cold running problem it skips unless I leave the enrichener open a bit when the temp is below 45 degrees. The alcohol has less energy per gallon in it so you use more fuel and have cold running issues in non fuel injected vehicles. I don't really see it helping me at all but I have no choice I have to burn what is for sale.

[GF]

Oklahoma just passed a law effective July 1st 08 that all gas stations that are mixing any Ethanol in the gas are required to have the pumps labeled reflecting this.

[Mooseherder]

Word is that if you can find e85 it is about 70 cents/gallon cheaper in GA.  I have an E85 truck that I would like to run on E85.  I was told by the dealer that I could expect 15% less mileage.

I have a 2008 e85  Chevy Impala.  It averages 24 miles per gallon. I've previously had 3 other Impalas that all got over 31 miles per gallon with the regular 3600 V6 motor.  These have all been company cars.  The fleet purchaser got fleeced.
On top of all that, I have never seen e-85 at any pump in the circles I travel in.   15%  to 20 % less mileage is almost criminal. 

[Left Coast Chris]

I have noteced out west here that if I buy cheap gas from Seven-11 or Beacon I get 16mpg combined highway/city in my Dodge 1500 2007 pickup.  When I buy from name brand quality stations at generally 20 cents more per gallon (Chevron, Shell, 76) I get 17.5 mpg.  I have tested this several times and it has held true.  It is well known Beacon has some prectentage of ethanol but I wish they would post the percentage then it would be out in the open.