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Offline Dodgy Loner

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Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« on: April 23, 2008, 01:54:51 pm »
Can anybody guess what did the damage to this oak tree?  Penny is included in the photograph for scale. :)



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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 02:02:21 pm »
A rat or armadillo?
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 03:56:45 pm »
Rat is closer than armadillo, but no cigar.
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 04:00:17 pm »
Pocket Gopher.
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 04:26:17 pm »
Also close, but you've got to think smaller...
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 08:16:48 pm »
Mole?
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 08:47:53 pm »
Shrew
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 09:42:36 pm »
Both good guesses, but moles and shrews are both carnivores/insectivores.
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 09:50:45 pm »
Mice?
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 11:30:32 pm »
It was a gnawing thing of some kind.....a little tiny itty bitty ground dwelling beaver :).
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2008, 11:57:11 pm »
Rodent, smaller than a rat and not a mole or shrew.   :P   ???

If it ain't field mice I dunno.

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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2008, 12:28:51 am »
Here's another hint: it's more closely related to lemmings than to mice  :P
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2008, 12:48:31 am »
A vole or muskrat.
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2008, 05:30:16 am »
Woodchuck? chipmunk?  Both marmots I guess.

Radar is probably onto it.
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2008, 06:33:08 am »
   Is that the root or the stem?

   P.S.   My dog was a carnivore, and he was a chewing machine! :D
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2008, 10:23:15 am »
That is the taproot - or, what used to be the taproot.  And Radar got it right - it's vole damage.  A client of mine had planted dozens of sawtooth oaks along a creek bank in his back yard, and several of them, including one that was about 6" in diameter, were killed by voles.  They feed on grasses, herbs, bulbs, and roots, and they burrow into the ground, producing holes near the surface that are about 1" in diameter.  Populations can get very dense in a hurry. 

Voles can be controlled with rat poison, but this does not discriminate between species and will kill anything that eats it.  A safer method is to use mouse traps baited with peanut butter.  Dozens of traps must be set and reset several times a week to have any appreciable effect on the population.
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2008, 10:26:07 am »
Does the right answer hold a personal on-site visit with WDH to walk over my place and make suggestions???  ;)  :)
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2008, 11:55:54 am »
I never  heard of voles before I read of them on this site. Mice were Mice and Moles were moles.

Reading up on them a little bit, I do that when it's something new, I found that a peculiarity of voles was monogamy. Only one strain, the field mouse (the meadow vole) has promiscuously mating males.

Reading on, the author says that it can be remedied by the insertion of a DNA string via a virus.  "The behavior is influenced by the number of repetitions of a particular string of micro-satellite ("junk") DNA, and the same DNA sequence is found in humans."  This is leading me to a supposition that human females may begin using this for social design, as if they need any help.

I can hear the nuptials now as the preacher asks, "Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband?"

And, the woman replying, "Yes sir, as soon as he finishes his vaccinations".  :-\
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2008, 04:10:17 pm »
Radar- It depends- Who's paying for gas? ;)

Tom-  :D I've read the same thing, but can't say that thought ever crossed my mind.
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Re: Wildlife damage: What killed this oak tree?
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2008, 04:54:33 pm »
I'm sure we could work something out. Danny can vouch for the food quality over here.  ;)
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