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Furby
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A walk in the park
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December 29, 2007, 08:58:56 pm »
I posted elsewhere the other day about going to the park near my parents place.
Well my sister wanted to go back and I was itching for something to do, so we went back and took a trail I've never been down before.
Ended up finding this tree and I'm guessing it might have a little curl to it, but I'm not 100% sure what it is.
I wanna say Boxelder, what you think?
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Re: A walk in the park
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December 29, 2007, 09:10:34 pm »
If not Boxelder which I agree with, something in the maple family.
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Re: A walk in the park
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December 29, 2007, 09:47:31 pm »
If that leaf is associated with the subject tree, it is not box elder. I am in Reddog's camp on this one.
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December 29, 2007, 09:58:33 pm »
That leaf is on the tree, I couldn't reach one higher up that looked to be in a little better shape.
I did get a bud pic, but I'm not sure the branck was alive.
I know it's in the maple family, no doubt there.
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December 30, 2007, 06:49:02 am »
That pointy brown bud and leaf speaks volumes. I'm not going to spoil it by saying what it is. I'll send Furby an IM instead.
When I first saw that bark I was giving it another name of a close associate though.
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December 30, 2007, 09:18:42 am »
I see a frost damage...
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December 30, 2007, 10:21:36 am »
Furby, Do you have any pics of farther up the tree? Would help to see some bark in the non damaged area.
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December 30, 2007, 12:54:56 pm »
I have this close up of lower down.
This is the best I have higher up.
There's a good chance we'll be going back tomorrow, and I can try to get a better pic further up and maybe a better leaf.
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December 30, 2007, 01:30:07 pm »
I would say it is a hard maple.
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December 30, 2007, 04:50:05 pm »
Based on what you have so far, I agree with WDH. Hard/Sugar Maple would be my guess.
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December 30, 2007, 08:22:35 pm »
The sharply pointed bud makes it a hard (sugar) maple.
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December 30, 2007, 08:28:35 pm »
Hard maple was my first guess when I saw the first picture of the bark. And that shape on the lower part of the trunk is an indicator of birdseye in Maple. So sugar maple is my guess.
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December 30, 2007, 09:00:01 pm »
It doesn't seem quite right for sugar maple so I'm quessing black maple
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December 30, 2007, 09:01:32 pm »
My thoughts were that it was an old suppressed sugar maple that got released after a harvest or disturbance. See it a lot on firewood lots. Those bumps are just swells between growth increments, especially prominent where hare keep pruning the tree back which cause the tree to develop clusters of buds. The same effect can continue up the tree as deer or moose browse the tree. I see moose come to the same tree year after year nipping away at last seasons new shoots that come off the previous nibble. The bark tends to get smoother up the tree, but can continue if the tree gets whipped by it's neighbors. A sugar maple can take a lot of abuse it seems.
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December 30, 2007, 09:03:41 pm »
Black maple buds are more stout and pubescent.
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December 30, 2007, 09:11:46 pm »
Well I'm a little surprised at Sugar Maple, I was thinking a soft Maple if it wasn't Boxelder.
It's maybe 5' from the edge of a 5 or 6' drop off to the stream below and does get seasonal flooding.
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December 30, 2007, 09:36:39 pm »
Probably rich ground Furb, any yellow birch around and white ash, basswood maybe?
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Re: A walk in the park
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December 30, 2007, 09:47:51 pm »
The soft maples are serrated between the lobes. Not so with the hard maples.
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December 30, 2007, 09:52:36 pm »
Ahhh....... ya ready for some more ID's eh.
Really, part of the reason I keep going back is to work on my ID's.
I even started mt sister on a few and she's slowly catching on.
I found hackberry and I'd never seen it before. Based on my ID book that was a gift from the Stump Jumpers a while back, I'm on the Northern edge for Hackberry.
Even found a real nice 28" one.
There are a wide mixture of trees, very diverse in my opinion.
Sycamore
White Oak
Red Oak
Beech
Hard and soft Maple.
Looks like Blue Beech
Aspen
Hemlock (I think)
Black Cherry
Hackberry
Cottonwood
Red Pine
White Pine are all ones I can ID, cept for the Maples I guess.
There are a couple different Ashes and Elms lots of trees I just haven't been able to confirm yet.
I'll put up a few and maybe you guys can help, I don't have anything other then bark and form to go by though.
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December 30, 2007, 10:01:35 pm »
How about this one?
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