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« on: December 09, 2007, 04:34:07 pm »
 ??? Jeff, I found an unsual leaf I wanted you to identify for me.  I was trying to download it to your website but I guess the file is too big.  I will send it to your sister as I do not have your e-mail address.  Maybe she can forward it to you.

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2007, 05:43:20 pm »
Welcome Anne. 8)
We can walk you through the pic problem if you'd like to do it yourself.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 08:09:59 pm »
anneoakleaf,

Hey welcome to the forum. You will now have to make it a point to comne to the Pig Roast in August. Pete and Lynda come every year. It is nice to see ya.

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 09:23:32 pm »
Hey Tammy, how did you know it was me??  I was trying to be clever so you wouldn't know who this was.  lol Anyways, Jason e-mailed me and I sent the pic onto him. It wasn't a real clear pic but enough so he could tell what it was, I hope. Maybe I will try later to download the pic again.

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 09:24:23 pm »
Here ya go!

 

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 09:34:38 pm »
Thanks Furby for posting my pic.  Do you know what kind of tree it is?

Does anyone know?

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2007, 09:39:08 pm »
Looks like mulberry to me, but it's been a while since I've seen a leaf so I could be way off.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2007, 10:58:40 pm »
I vote with Furby.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 07:13:01 am »
If it's not a mulberry, it's the same shape as a sassafras to.

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2007, 08:28:35 am »
I don't think it's a mulberry as I didn't see any berries so maybe it's a sassafras. I found it in downtown Waukegan, Illinois this past fall. I found the leaf to be so very intresting that I had to find out what it was.  Thanks!

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 08:43:21 am »
Hey Furby, I've been in Grand Rapids as well. I went to college there up on Beltline.  Back then it was Called Grand Rapids Baptist College. I forgot what they changed the name to now.  We used to go up to Michigan Hill...kind of like inspiration point. There also used to be the weather ball did they move it or just got rid of it? I've also been to John Ball Park & Zoo. So you see the world is sort of small huh?

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2007, 09:20:09 am »
Mullberry is my vote as Sassafrass has a smooth leaf edge.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2007, 09:38:57 am »
It is definitely mulberry.  The mulberries are long gone, assuming the tree was a female.  If it was a male, no berries, never.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2007, 10:13:33 am »
I concur with the Bassist.  ;)

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2007, 11:42:52 am »
Definitely not sassafras.

Don't know anything about mulberry.

This leaf looks very similar to a landscaping bush sold alot around here, called oak leaf hydrangea.

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2007, 02:52:17 pm »
I agree with mulberry and probably white mulberry as well. It's white that has the most ornamental shaped leaves even though Red or Black may have a few.   The first white mulberry leaf I ever saw reminded me of a chinese pagoda and I've never forgotten it.   They have all kinds of angles and are generally symetrical so that there are parts that look like spear tips or multi-roofed chinese buildings.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2007, 03:06:31 pm »
Absolutely Mulberry.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2007, 04:46:45 pm »
Here's a picture of a White Mulberry leaf I posted years ago.  Pretty distinctive.

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2007, 05:28:30 pm »
Yup, no doubt about it.  :)

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2007, 08:36:50 pm »
If it is red mulberry, it will be scrabrous, rough to the tongue, like sandpaper.  If it is white mulberry, it will be smooth as a baby's bottom, and that is real smooth... ;D.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2007, 12:39:57 am »
Hey Furby, I've been in Grand Rapids as well. I went to college there up on Beltline.  Back then it was Called Grand Rapids Baptist College. I forgot what they changed the name to now.  We used to go up to Michigan Hill...kind of like inspiration point. There also used to be the weather ball did they move it or just got rid of it? I've also been to John Ball Park & Zoo. So you see the world is sort of small huh?

That would be Cornerstone University, I go past there a lot in the summer.

Weather ball was removed a long time ago, and brought back to life several years back by WZZM13.
It's now located at their station at the junction of US-131 and Alpine Ave.

Been a loooooong time since I've been up on the hill, might have to go up there sometime soon.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2007, 06:05:07 pm »
So you guys can say with a great deal of accuracy that is is Mulberry and it's a male one as there were no berries on it?  Yeah, I know you said that the berries are long gone.  However, I got this leaf before the fall leaf changes and I saw no berry stains on the ground etc. I guess I will have to wait until next year to see if it has berries or not.

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2007, 06:29:13 pm »
Check for those berries in Mid-May to Mid-June.
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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2007, 06:40:58 pm »
Now anneoakleaf, Jeff said that you were Pete's sister, he just said it in a complicated way. ;D
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2007, 07:03:41 pm »
I have no signs of berries under or around my trees a couple weeks after they are all off the tree.
So I really doubt you'd see any signs at all in the fall.

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Re: unusual leaf
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2007, 08:29:56 pm »
Having no signs of berries or even no berries is a difficult call on Mulberry since it is so slow to produce, 10 years from seed.  It is also hard to identify a male or female tree for the same reason, as well as the fact that the sex might change.

Here is a good article I googled up:
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/mulberry.html
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2007, 08:49:40 pm »
Tom,

Very informative article.  I never knew that they (red mulberries) could cross-dress until you pointed it out in another thread.

I eagerly await the month of May when My Favorite Mulberry tree is full of fruit :).  Reading the article instantly made me want some ;D.
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2007, 08:57:47 pm »
When do I get mine?  I mean marbles mulberries. ;D

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« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2007, 09:13:43 pm »
I will send you some.........
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« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2007, 09:19:21 pm »
Do they look kinda like a black berry?  :)

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« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2007, 09:51:24 pm »
Sort of, but much longer.  Sweet-tart too, where blackberries are just sweet  Yum food1 food1.
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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2007, 10:25:41 pm »
I think they look more like a Raspberry than a blackberry, except that the stem doesn't come out of a mulberry like it does a Raspberry.  I don't know how it is up there, but down South, the kids are a lot easier to keep track of in Mulberry season.  :D
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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2007, 06:55:42 am »
You sure won't find them glomming through the black berry thickets. ;D

and glomming is a word despite the spell checker, all be it slang.  ;)

Tom do you glom through the mulberry bushes to gleam the berries? ;D

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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2007, 08:34:22 am »
Glom?  Wasn't that the creature in the Lord of the Rings?  So, when glomming, you shuffle through the blackberries a little hunched issuing hissing noises ??? ::).

Next spring, I will have to go glom me some mulberries :D.
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« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2007, 09:23:27 am »
Used to be, when I glommed mulberries, I glommed them from the top of a tree.  It lead me to having long arms and a prehensile tail.   Only recently have i evolved away from that and begun to take the form of a degraded modern human. :D
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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2007, 02:15:10 pm »
But still simian at heart, no doubt ;D.
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« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2007, 04:39:36 pm »
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