Author Topic: Lets see your old [still working] chainsaws (Read 14676 times)

mike_van · « **on:** November 24, 2007, 02:41:29 pm »

I bought this 041 new in 1972, it was about 220.00 if I can remember back that far. The guy at the shop had a Homelite XL 104 ordered for me that never came, so he talked me into this "new line" he was going to carry. I don't know how many chains I've sharpened away using this saw, but it's quite a few. I've got a 28" bar I use once in a while with it, have cut some 50" oak, maple & ash. With the 28" bar you can't lean on it then, just let it cut, but it gets the job done. I use 32/1 gas mix, always have. This isn't the Farm Boss model or the AV either, pre-dates them I think. The guys long since gone out of business, but I'm glad he talked me into trying the "new line"

Dave Shepard · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2007, 08:14:23 pm »

I've got an 031AV that looks just like that. Leaking gas tank and no inertia brake made it an early retirement candidate. Was a strong runner though.

Dave

beenthere · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2007, 09:17:46 pm »

I've an old 041 Stihl bought in '75. Still the original Windsor bar. Have run a lot of chains through it, and had to replace the handle once. Never been opened, but has had a new fuel pickup and new pull cord.
Never failed to start (when it had fuel anyway

).

Edit 11/29/07 Fired this one up today to cut down a spruce tree, as it has a fairly used chain and I wanted to cut close to the ground...as well as give it some exercise.

It ran great, and idled, as well as started on idle with one pull.

sawguy21 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2007, 11:18:40 pm »

I started working in a Stihl shop in 1975. The 041 was my favorite, light with lots of power. It has put on a lot of weight since.

I recently picked up a low hours Husky 35 that runs like a champ. The owner said he could not start it but he hated the noise more than anything. The little rascal is LOUD but a great camp saw. It is fun cutting firewood next to the tent of the clowns that kept us awake until 4 a.m with their stereo.

aaronak · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2007, 11:35:05 pm »

Ive got one of those old 041's, I cant get the thing to start with fuel in it, I think its the gas cap.....cause the fuel line presurizes real good, it squirts fuel out when I pull it off the carb, but the fuel doesnt get into the carb. I thought about doing a new post about it, but God only knows what is wrong with it and I dont know enough about saws or have the money to let a guy at the shop toinker around with it. I do some wrenching on vehicles, and can get anything else to start but this dang saw. Reason I brought it up is because it seems to be a pretty popular, reliable saw. The saw was given to me. I cleaned out the carb and put a new gasket kit on it, that hasnt done much. There wasnt enough junk in the carb to even justify rebuilding the carb. I dont get it. Can it be the fuel cap?

Dave Shepard · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2007, 11:47:24 pm »

Welcome to the Forum!

Dave

aaronak · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2007, 12:43:11 am »

Thank you Dave.

I keep thinking maybe I am a victim of somebody elses problem saw, but the darn thing has good compression, the fuel pressurizes in the fuel line, when I pull the starter cord I can tell the saw would start if I could just figure out that one bug keeping it from starting. Then I put it down and put it off for another day......and then I come online to this forum and see the saws you people have been using for over 30 years, and man I really wish I could get it to start. Maybe I'll take it down to the shop after all, but I really like solving my own problems. The sarter pawls dont always engage with what they're supposed to be engaging with, the spring is weak, but it has good compression, and I KNOW it will start once I figure out why it wont. Wish I had a picture of it to show you guys. I think its a farm boss. Anyway, hope somebody else posts some pics of their saws.

Aaron

beenthere · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2007, 01:30:55 am »

Aaron
Jerk the spark plug out and pull it a few times to see if there is spark at the plug. Then pour a bit of fuel in the cylinder, reassemble and see if you get some kick out of it. Might give you some ideas. If it fires with the fuel, then track down why it's not getting there. If there is no spark, then track that down.

aaronak · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2007, 02:02:01 am »

Ive tried all that Beenthere. I get a spark, I got a short burst of fire once from this saw before, and thats it. My dad used to try, he said it ran rough when he had it, and never really got it to run well. It was given to him, now its been given to me.

Its a saw I stare at when I dont have anything else to do. I am not going to pitch it cause it came to me with a good bar, and chain, and it turns over, and I know I can fix it once I figure out how, but so far no luck.

Oh well.....back to the pics....anybody got more pics of their old[still working] chainsaws?

mike_van · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2007, 06:52:26 am »

aaronak, thats happened to mine before, and it's probably something simple like a tiny jet or port gummed up in the carb, especially as it's sat so long. It could be as easy as a partly sheared flywheel key too, you have spark, just not at the time it's needed. Where about's do you live? I'd just enjoy the heck out of getting it running for you - - Keep reading here, someones going to fix that saw for you, no reason it shouldn't be making sawdust

beenthere - your saw looks like new! Nice one!

thecfarm · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2007, 07:17:06 am »

aaronak,welcome to the forum.You might want to start another thread on you saw.You might get better results.I use to have a 032 when I was cutting just firewood for myself.That started leaking all over the place.Had it for years and went through many chains and quite a few bars with it too.A clutch too.I was very happy with that saw.You mention the pawls for the starter.On my 032 there was this plastic pawl that engage the starter.All of 76¢,but that cost me a few hours.I bought 2 more and never used them.Good luck.

blueduck · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2007, 01:20:39 pm »

Though the saw dont run anymore after the rings were burnt it it a few years ago, I still have the saw i cut my knee with back in '79 when i was 15 workin on the landing just afore we shut down for the day on hoot owl..... an old McCullough 710 series that was lighter than first fallin saw i had which was a model 81e .... which i have and it still runs.... tough i aint used it in 15 years cause i went to the punkin patch and gots me a swede 288 Husky for the big timber i was in at the time..... made in 1994 it has a few parts and pieces broke off and missing but it still cuts better than a few newer saws. I also have a couple 266's with 32 inch bars that i run in the bigger timber which are older by a year or so than the 288, but i got them later in life and not new......

Pictures? would that mean i need to clean em up so they looks perty?

And i guess I could add the 2 cross cuts that have been in the family since...... well before the power saw was available to us.... the handles are in great shape, and ive got spares.... but never learned to set the teeth or sharpen them.... smaller saws at 7-8 feet.

William
Central Idaho

Ironwood · « **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2007, 03:30:00 pm »

I bought a Disston for a buddy up north (didn't get it home yet) It is the old swivel bar style so the power head can remain hortizontal. I forget the model #. It is orange (I think), w/ handlebars. He only wanted $100 for it and I almost bought a Mudd (I think that is the name) off the internet last year, so I figure a Disston is at least as collectable.
any collectors out there can help me w/ this find? How many are around? Value? I wanted an "antique" I think I basically got one!

Ironwood

aaronak · « **Reply #13 on:** November 26, 2007, 05:49:58 pm »

Ok Mike_Van, I am going to check out the flywheel like you mentioned. Because this saw turns over real nice, and it has decent compression enough that I can hold the saw by the cord, and it takes a while for the saw to drop to the ground, if it does.

I didn't want to tear it down as far as the flywheel because I am not quite sure where it is, but I will find some diagrams and get started thinking about it.

In the meantime I have a new 441 I am going to make firewood with if my boss will let me leave work to do it. If I get to the cabin where the saws are at I will take a LOT of pictures of the old Farm Boss(I think it is) and post them on here, and do a new post about it for us newer folks to chainsaws.

Thanks a lot Mike, and everybody else that does this forum stuff.

sharp edge · « **Reply #14 on:** November 28, 2007, 01:20:49 pm »

the first thing I do when a small engine won't start, take the plug out pour 2-3 tablespoons of oil in the hole then either. If it has spark and a good plug the extra compression will make it start. If its the only way to get going change piston rings.

My oldest still working saw is one I got at Wallmart a mo. ago 45cc, 18",$150.00. I don't like junk so I stayaway from the 33cc saws.

aaronak · « **Reply #15 on:** November 29, 2007, 02:50:00 am »

If I cant get a small engine to work I do the same thing, just a lil bit of oil tho. Then I use Carb cleaner......and if the machine has gas it usually starts. I used gas on this 041, I got it to fire once a long time ago. Hasnt dont squat since....except laugh at my futile attempts. I took a fuel line off the carb and it was squirting fuel pretty good. So I say the fuel is getting to the carb, but not in the carb. I have cleaned out the carb and rebuilt it. Put it all back together, and try it again, same exact results. Nada. So I am going to check out flywheel when I get the saw in my hands again. Actually I will probably try everything everybody has suggested first. Then start taking pictures and track down problem that way.

WDH · « **Reply #16 on:** November 29, 2007, 08:16:32 am »

Husky 61 Rancher. 29 years and counting. I need to put a bar on it.

Tom · « **Reply #17 on:** November 29, 2007, 10:29:19 am »

That Bow looks just fine on there, WDH.

Chris J · « **Reply #18 on:** November 29, 2007, 12:00:03 pm »

Ironwood, you probably already know about this site, but here's a link...

http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/GasbyManufacturer?OpenView&Start=30&Count=30&Expand=31#31

Click on the Disston DA 211 & check out the photos at the bottom of the page. I have a 211, but mine is incomplete (understatement!) & has seized pistons.

ely · « **Reply #19 on:** November 29, 2007, 12:05:14 pm »

i have one of those 61 huskys except it has a real bar on it and it quit running the other day. the man at the saw shop said bring it by and he would look at it. told me it had two different electric modules on it maybe . and if they were both out it would cost more than it was worth to fix it.

how dare him say that to me. that has always been my favorite saw.
sort of surprised me that it showed up here in an old saw thread. i thought it was a newer model all this time. i have owned it since 1986 and i got it used then.

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Author Topic: Lets see your old [still working] chainsaws (Read 14676 times)