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Offline StorminN

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Re: So, what about veggie oil????
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2008, 07:33:18 pm »
thanks clousert,

That's good info to know. I have a friend that runs his 6.9L Ford cube van on non-heated WVO, he mixes it with dino diesel to thin it out. Of course, he's a mechanic, so if it breaks, he's not too worried... he's the kind of guy with a lot of rigs, and currently the cube van is parked in need of a transmission rebuild.

I started building a 300 gallon-per-batch biodiesel processor with a couple of buddies of mine, but we realized pretty quickly we would need a better place to house it, and we got busy with other things (I'm developing some property and building a couple of buildings) so it's been put on the back burner. I'm thinking once I get a pole barn built, I might gather up the pieces we have (500 gallon propane tanks modified to stand on end, etc.) and put the processor together, so I can make my own bio. I have enough diesel rigs (Suburban, van, big excavator, genny) that I sure could use it.

Thanks again.

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Re: So, what about veggie oil????
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2008, 01:54:51 am »
Been  thinkin on doing the wvo or bio thing for my genset for a while .I use quite a bit of oil in the concession trailers during the year and have been giving the old oil away.Can,t do that any more...price has increased from $13.00 in november to $30.00 today.You all might want to  lock in your supplies..

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Re: So, what about veggie oil????
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2008, 08:55:39 pm »
Make sure their is a line shut off close to your hookup..... it will keep oozing after you disconnect.  Trash pump should work ok, I've pumped oil with a swimming pool pump, as long as it was warm enough, 70 degrees or so.

To StorminN:  I burned straight veggie oil in my tractors for the first year.  Actually, I cut it with 10% kero, 5% gasoline, and about 1 pint of naptha in 20 gallons of mix.  It ran the engines fine, but I'd plug filters after every 100 gallons.  Slime on the filters.

After 100 hours of run time, one of my 90 hp tractors bent a pushrod, and I got scared and set up to do the whole conversion.  When we took the engine apart, it was pretty gooey in there, and the guy helping me said that the veg. oil stickiness was maybe causing the rods to "hang up".

I know that my engines oozed a bit, at the fuel pump and on the block, and that went away when I did the tranesterification.  What I learned from the experience is that in the short term, for an engine you don't care about, just run regular oil, and maybe cut it with some gasoline to bring the viscosity down and help with the ignition point of the fuel.  In the long term, for engines you care about, don't do it.


i can tell ya this with the experience on my passat--when you mix it like that you C A N T  let the engine idle--its not hot enough at the injector to burn A L L  the oil being put out--long story of learning. start the tractor, and stay on it--and dont let it idle--at all----

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Re: So, what about veggie oil????
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2008, 10:05:01 am »
One problem not many people speak on is Hydrogenated oils which many restaurants use.

This stuff is not only bad for your heart, it waxes and leaves a hard varnish on your steel- tanks, lines, pumps, etc. Also- your oil needs to be totally dewatered, and then there's a problem with salt.

Pure oils typically used in chinese food joints is not hydrogenated. This is the best for your rig, but it does carbon and leave other nasty's in your engine. After I learned and saw what the effects are long term, I realized there was no way I was going to run WVO in my expensive diesel trucks.

A guy here locally ran hydrogenated oils from the greasy spoon in is dodge cummins and a year later had major problems.  Had to replace fuel lines, injector pump, and who knows what else.

THe only thing I wil run oil in is my sationary engines that I can take apart and clean.
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