Author Topic: Another one I don't know (Read 2918 times)

metalspinner · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2007, 09:53:54 pm »

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That inequilateral bud is a smoking gun, however.

On the basswood leaf or the TP bark?

Lanier_Lurker · « **Reply #21 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:00:36 am »

Ok, here are the pictures of the culprit.

This is a large tree. I estimate the dbh to be at least 36", the height to be at least 80', and the crown spread to be at least 50'. Fortunately, there were some low hanging limbs that still had leaves on them. This is definitely the tree that produced the leaf in the first picture. It is over in the neighbor's front yard.

The last picture that shows the entire tree is a little deceiving. There is a severe slope between the tree and the road - about a 10' drop between the road and the tree.

So, do these pictures confirm the identification of this tree as basswood?

WDH · « **Reply #22 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:02:50 am »

Metalspinner,

If you look at a basswood twig, the buds that sit above the leaf petiole are fat and they sit halfway off to the side. That is what is meant by the term inequilateral. They are squenched off to the side

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I need to go to my woods and get a twig for a pic. I only have a few basswood trees on my place, and they are not all that easy to get to. This is a good reason to take Miss Scarlet to the woods

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WDH · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:08:39 am »

Quote from: Lanier_Lurker on November 19, 2007, 12:00:36 am

So, do these pictures confirm the identification of this tree as basswood?

Oh yes!

I don't know if you see the same thing that I do, but the bark looks like it split to form the ridges versus the prominently raised ridges that you see in yellow poplar. You can see that in the 1st pic of the basswood tree.

There are what looks like holes in the bark, and that too is typical. If you look way up the stem where the bark is beginning to get smooth, you may see the bumps that I mentioned previously.

Nice pics, LL. That is one fine basswood tree.

Bro. Noble · « **Reply #24 on:** November 19, 2007, 10:09:56 am »

Well Danny, I hate to argue with such a well respected forester as yourself, but if you look closer at some of those lower leaves you will see that that is a English Ivy tree

Brian Beauchamp · « **Reply #25 on:** November 19, 2007, 02:47:49 pm »

No, that is an American Linden. Get it right!

WDH · « **Reply #26 on:** November 19, 2007, 07:09:57 pm »

DanG, Bro. Noble. That is the biggest English Ivy Tree that I have ever seen

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jon12345 · « **Reply #27 on:** November 22, 2007, 01:01:44 am »

I'm glad ya kept lookin tilia found the right one

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #28 on:** November 22, 2007, 03:59:24 am »

Yup, looks like a basswood.

Not saying you should do harm to the tree, but that bark will come off in long strips and was used for rope making.

Also, basswood tends to have those stump suckers a lot.

T. americana

Flower and distinctive bract.

buds

twig

leaf

WDH · « **Reply #29 on:** November 22, 2007, 09:05:29 am »

In Swamp's twig pic, look at the third bud down from the top of the twig. See how the bud is referenced to the side of the leaf scar? They sit catywompus to the leaf scar

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Jon12345.........

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Dave Shepard · « **Reply #30 on:** November 22, 2007, 09:58:49 pm »

Those pictures confirm that what I sawed up last month was, in fact, basswood. Same bark, with the little holes. See my "I thought it was ash..." thread in sawmilling. Catywompus, that is a great word, is that anything like being "kitty corner to"?

Dave

WDH · « **Reply #31 on:** November 22, 2007, 10:16:04 pm »

"Kitty corner to", say more

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Ron Scott · « **Reply #32 on:** November 23, 2007, 06:28:13 pm »

Yes to basswood. Good pictures for its ID.

Dave Shepard · « **Reply #33 on:** November 23, 2007, 08:04:32 pm »

It took some cogitating, some recolecting,(back to high school geometry), and even a little pondering, but I finally found the word I was looking for. If something is kitty-corner to some other thing, then it is adjacent to it. I don't know who came up with kitty, or sometimes catty, cornet, it is a little weird, I guess. Catywompus is certainly foreign to my ears.

Dave

beenthere · « **Reply #34 on:** November 23, 2007, 08:10:47 pm »

I always have heard kitty-corner (and used it) to mean diagonally across an intersection of two streets. Works for me.

Cattywampus meaning 'crooked', out of sorts. Nothing to do with a direction, but works good for the basswood buds.

Lanier_Lurker · « **Reply #35 on:** November 24, 2007, 12:44:33 am »

Yes, catty or kitty corner = opposite corner, not adjacent.

Catty-wompus or katty-wampus usually means something different - depending on the dialect you speak. In my dialect it is a generic term for off-center, inequal, unequal, incongruent, distorted, half upside-down, tilted, skewed, unbalanced, unhinged, or just "not right".

WDH · « **Reply #36 on:** November 24, 2007, 01:37:47 am »

Yep, LL, you nailed it

. Just like a Basswood bud

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SwampDonkey · « **Reply #37 on:** November 24, 2007, 04:48:18 am »

You fellers and your unbridled word games.

How did ya come up with that one?

Tom · « **Reply #38 on:** November 24, 2007, 03:04:44 pm »

come up with that one?? That one been around lots of generations. Yep passed on from Pappy to Pappy to Pappy.....

Probably came from up your way unless it might be a language spoken by my ancestors. You know, the ones that the king sent over here to keep their jails from becoming overloaded. A lot of us down here are a bad bunch. No telling what we'll say.

We'll shoot danged near anything too.

beenthere · « **Reply #39 on:** November 24, 2007, 03:10:50 pm »

My Grandmother used 'em both (kitty-corner and cattywampus), and she came from New Hampshire in the early 1900's

SD leads a sheltered life...

Good thing he has the forum.....

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Author Topic: Another one I don't know (Read 2918 times)